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Old 11-16-2022, 09:05 AM
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“Government” scientists sent us to the moon and back.
I recall several private companies, under program contract to the government sent us to the moon and back.
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Old 11-16-2022, 10:13 AM
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Honestly, this is where you depart reality for me. The level of coordination required to get 1000s of people to put their integrity on the line is so far beyond normal rational human ability, that I just can’t get behind this conspiracy theory crap. You guys can’t wrap your head around a global crisis backed by thousands of independent organizations involving hundreds of thousands of people who have dedicated their lives to this, but glom onto these weird one off conspiracies that would require waaaay more moving parts……….don’t kid yourselves, you believe it because of partisan politics.
There is a middle ground. We are heating up the planet, don’t destroy the economy to fix it. Blah blah…..middle ground
Yes and Covid is naturally occurring.
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I recall several private companies, under program contract to the government sent us to the moon and back.
Private contractors along with NASA and several other government entities
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Private contractors along with NASA and several other government entities
Mercury spacecraft was designed and built by McDonnell Aircraft. Neighbors in St. Louis tucked the astronauts on board. North American Aviation designed and built the Apollo command module. A professor of mine in college was their project manager. The NASA personnel were the program managers. They were not the engineers, designers, and constructors.

Just like the Air Force did not engineer, design, and build the F-15. They wrote the specifications and were the program managers.
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Mercury spacecraft was designed and built by McDonnell Aircraft. Neighbors in St. Louis tucked the astronauts on board. North American Aviation designed and built the Apollo command module. A professor of mine in college was their project manager. The NASA personnel were the program managers. They were not the engineers, designers, and constructors.

Just like the Air Force did not engineer, design, and build the F-15. They wrote the specifications and were the program managers.
NASA employed plenty of scientists and engineers for the Apollo program. i.e. It takes an engineer to monitor contractors that involved engineering https://history.nasa.gov/SP-4104.pdf



Government funding (and managing (not to mention the US Navy)) got us to the moon and back…that’s the point. It addresses the false implication that anything funded by the government is a lie.
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Originally Posted by Hubcapped View Post
Honestly, this is where you depart reality for me. The level of coordination required to get 1000s of people to put their integrity on the line is so far beyond normal rational human ability, that I just can’t get behind this conspiracy theory crap. You guys can’t wrap your head around a global crisis backed by thousands of independent organizations involving hundreds of thousands of people who have dedicated their lives to this, but glom onto these weird one off conspiracies that would require waaaay more moving parts……….don’t kid yourselves, you believe it because of partisan politics.
It's merely a theory that is unproven, but it is being pushed hard because it suits an agenda. That's not really a conspiracy. you really need to study the history of propaganda and then take a look around at the modern world and all of the messaging on this. If you can't understand that something isn't right then you can't think critically.


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There is a middle ground. We are heating up the planet, don’t destroy the economy to fix it. Blah blah…..middle ground
Unproven. Should we strive to limit actual pollution? Yes, of course. Clean air and clean water. But not to the point that it pushes us into socialism (which is the goal). And also CO2 isn't "evil" as is being pushed.
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And who funds them?
So, you’re impugning all of higher education because of some government funding? Yeah right, got it .

Your conspiracy theories which amounts to summation in catchy one-liners are quite the stretch.

I will play along just for the entertainment. What source of funding is immune to putting the finger on the scales of research? Let’s see, there is government funding and you have that all figured out. Oh! Got it! Private sector funding. They are always legit!
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer View Post
It's merely a theory that is unproven, but it is being pushed hard because it suits an agenda. That's not really a conspiracy. you really need to study the history of propaganda and then take a look around at the modern world and all of the messaging on this. If you can't understand that something isn't right then you can't think critically.
Translation; “If you don’t agree with my far-fetched lunatic fringe conspiracy theories, then you lack critical thinking skills”
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Money grab pure and simple. Every storm, every hurricane, every heat wave is now blamed on Global warming and if we don't go electric the world will end. ( according to John Kerry and Al Gore)

Yet somehow the heat wave in CA this past Sept. was the hottest since the 1920's?? (So wait, it was hot 100 yrs ago also? That's weird.)


Atlantic had less named hurricanes this year than in years past. Pacific (HI) was "forecasted" to have a bad hurricane season. Hawaii didn't sniff a hurricane.

Obama just bought a beach house on Oahu, has a beach house on Martha's Vineyard, Biden has a beach house in Delaware.

Buffalo is getting dumped on with snow this week.... It's being portrayed in the news like Buffalo never gets snow! (Really, that's all it does is snow there Nov-Mar.) And of course the lake effect snow is getting blamed on Global Warming.


FL, the bastion of craziness according to CNN, probably recycles more than any State in the Country per capita. Many municipalities provide 50gl trash receptacles specifically for recycling. NY provides a small box that fits maybe 2 milk jugs and some newspapers. Hawaii doesn't provide anything.

As soon as the climate crazies can do things without being hypocrites (John Kerry private jet anyone) and as soon as I see Leonardo DeCaprio flying on a commercial airliner, then maybe they'll all be taken seriously.
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Originally Posted by Ludicrous Speed View Post
So, you’re impugning all of higher education because of some government funding? Yeah right, got it .

Your conspiracy theories which amounts to summation in catchy one-liners are quite the stretch.

I will play along just for the entertainment. What source of funding is immune to putting the finger on the scales of research? Let’s see, there is government funding and you have that all figured out. Oh! Got it! Private sector funding. They are always legit!
Yes, the Government would never fund misinformation. Wake up.
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