Delta-NWA seniority comparison graphs - Page 8 - Airline Pilot Central Forums

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Eric Stratton , 04-19-2008 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DAL4EVER

Or they were going "All In" as they say in poker and lost.

As Kenny Rogers said "Never count your cards while sitting at the table, there will be plenty time to count when the dealing's done".

Isn't your sandwich reference the title of the review to Spinal Tap's "Shark Sandwich"?

now that's funny

big bottom's...just a great song

#72

Jay5150 , 04-19-2008 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric Stratton

according to wiki it is the california police term for a mentally disturbed person.

Well that's just great. Now it means I should keep it.

#73

Carl Spackler , 04-19-2008 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Scoop

Carl,
You are equating DOH across two different airlines which would only be true if we had a national seniority list- which we don't. A pilot hired in 2000 at NW is not senior to a pilot hired at DAL in 2001. He has an earlier DOH, I agree, but he is not senior. To be senior, by definition you need a seniority list.
Carl - why would a guy 10% pre-merger and 10% post merger not be fair? DOH is irrelevant without a national seniority list. Are 1995 hires at AMR senior to Southwest pilots hired in 998? No they are not. Hell, I received my Navy Wings in 1988, if DOH can be carried across different entities then I guess I should push for a 1988 DOH.
Scoop

If what you say was relevant in any way, there would be no DOH mergers by arbitrators. Fact is, most arbitrated awards include some or all DOH components. ALPA merger policy used to state that the preferred method was DOH with fences to even out any imbalances. There is a very long history of DOH in arbitrations. Will that occur here, who knows.

Carl

#74

Carl Spackler , 04-19-2008 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigflya

Carl,

If all the NWA guys are talking like you that they really have nothing to lose at arbitration then I say your wrong. If we will be operating under one seniority list and one contract then we at DAL should push for your frozen A-plan to be terminated and paid out like ours was so we will both be working for equal compensation. Maybe you don't have nothing to lose. Now hate me!

Then you should push for it Bigflya...and no, I don't hate you. I would actually prefer to have my pension terminated and paid out as a lump sum. If we've learned anything from this bankruptcy it was how flimsy a defined benefit pension is. Give me a defined contribution any day and I'll take responsibility for managing it.

Carl

#75

Ferd149 , 04-19-2008 10:20 AM

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Carl,

Yup, would love to have the pension handed over to us ala the green book annuities. Bigflya, I can support cancelling the A-plan.......I get a raise if it goes to the PBGC! Just kidding Carl.....

Ferd <----will need a raise to offset the Delta hat fines