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Originally Posted by markvolkjr
the aim wants you to report established when you cross the fix for the first time on a direct entry, and then for a tear drop and parallel entry its the second time. I teach all of my students the second time regardless. Once they are established they report their time and altitude.
You are not "established" when you cross the fix the first time, you are entering. Whether it be a parallel, direct, or teardrop entry, the first "turn" in the holding pattern is the entry turn. You are not established until you cross the holding fix the second time.
That's not what you report.
Aeronautical Information Manual (Updated 7/31/08) Chapter 5. Air Trafic Procedures, Section 3. En Route Procedures5-3-3. Additional Reports
a. The following reports should be made to ATC or FSS facilities without a specific ATC request: 1. At all times. f) The time and altitude or flight level upon reaching a holding fix or point to which cleared.
(g) When leaving any assigned holding fix or point
The required report is for "reaching a holding fix" -- that's the first time you cross, regardless of which way you're pointed or which time of entry you'll use.
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