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Originally Posted by Sluggo_63
I didn't do it this way, and wouldn't recommend it. I heard of people getting told to leave interviews for this exact reason. The reason is that most airlines want PIC time as defined in FAR Part 1 (Signing for the aircraft) not as defined in FAR Part 61.51 (Sole manipulator). Primary time is the 'sole manipulator' time. 'A' code time is 'signing for the aircraft.'
What I did (and is recommended by most airline recruiters) is to take your MP/IP column and add the primary and secondary times (then take about 90% of that). Add to that all of your Instructor time. That will be your FAR Part 1 PIC time. Take your MC Pri and Sec and add that together and that will give you your SIC time. Throw out all 'Other' and 'Student' time. An argument can be made that 'Other' time can be counted as SIC (In the FARs, part of the definition of SIC is 'required to be there by regulation.' So if you had to be an augmented crew, say, you were required, by reg, to be on the airplane, you are logging SIC time even if you were in the jumpseat [or bunk, more than likely]. To me it wasn't worth the couple of hundred hours, so I tossed it.)
When I was hired at UAL back in 2000, I went way overboard dividing my time up into pre-checkride, post-checkride times and it was probably closer to what they wanted, but a pain. With my recent airline hire, I just used the method described above, and there were no questions.
I hope this helped.
This is probably the best way to do it. Remember, do not use your "primary" time as PIC time if you were a copilot (coded as MC, FC or UC). Add your copilot primary and secondary together and that becomes SIC. Toss out all other ..
I disagree with your argument of how to use "other" time. (ie required to be there). Just take all your "other" time and toss it. If you make it to an interview, you don't want to be arguing this point.
Other than this point, I think you have the best method to convert Air Force time to what the airlines want.
07-31-2023
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