On RA show at 1230L deadhead to DSM land at 1830. Not released. Isn't that a 17 hour day?

See trip 346 2 mar 727 FO. No not me. But it looks like no one on RA should have filled it. Or RB for that matter.

I think 25.M.1.f.ii covers this:

f. A reserve pilot who departs his domicile to operate a domestic duty period shall be scheduled for release to a legal rest period not later than 4 hours after the end of his RP. This paragraph shall not apply:

i. to a pilot who is released for a legal rest period prior to the showtime of his reserve assignment; or

ii. if the reserve pilot is assigned to a duty period consisting exclusively of deadhead.

.^%$&*(@!,.

SO they can launch you on a 16 hour deadhead boondoggle at the end of your 12 hour Rday? What is the limit? At what point have you exceeded your "duty day"?

This is the reason we need RA+ lines.

FJ

Not unless it stays in the US, provision is for a domestic duty period, not sure for a intl dh.

For ANY international duty period, they can launch you at the end of your RP to go well over 4 hours past the end of your reserve period. Had it happen to me. Yes, it's legal. If you read 121 supplemental regs, there is no published duty limit for international operations, so therefore no 16 hour day. Contract reads that way too. Not the end of the world if it's a trip with a RFO, painful if it's part of a 2 man crew. For deadhead only within the U.S., contract says it's legal, and I guess since you're not flying an airplane, the FAA doesn't care. Makes sense, it's not like deadheading is really work.