PC12 runs off runway at BDR

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as long as everyone is ok we can save the finger pointing till the details surface
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I shoot good approaches and eat up runway all the time. Usually because I want to but just because there is an ILS doesn't mean your gonna hit the 1,000 footers. It does give you a pretty fair chance though. Hard to question what a pilot was doing up there when we are sitting down here.
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Quote: I shoot good approaches and eat up runway all the time. Usually because I want to but just because there is an ILS doesn't mean your gonna hit the 1,000 footers. It does give you a pretty fair chance though. Hard to question what a pilot was doing up there when we are sitting down here.
Floating down a runway to a certain extent can be allowable but to make it common practice is asking for trouble. You are correct that if you fly down the ILS at an approach speed of 120 and 800fpm that it will put you AT the thousand footers so unless you want to drive it into the ground you can expect 500 or so more feet for passenger comfort. The first third of the runway is not a suggestion though.

If someone is floating down the runway in search of a great landing it is due to poor technique. A nice soft landing just past the thousand footers is easily workable providing the correct airspeed as well as correct timing of power reduction and flare or variant of the flare depending on what you fly. If you are not controlling those elements then the taking of more runway is just a crutch for some missing links in a pilots bag of tricks and abilities.
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Quote: Floating down a runway to a certain extent can be allowable but to make it common practice is asking for trouble. You are correct that if you fly down the ILS at an approach speed of 120 and 800fpm that it will put you AT the thousand footers so unless you want to drive it into the ground you can expect 500 or so more feet for passenger comfort. The first third of the runway is not a suggestion though.

If someone is floating down the runway in search of a great landing it is due to poor technique. A nice soft landing just past the thousand footers is easily workable providing the correct airspeed as well as correct timing of power reduction and flare or variant of the flare depending on what you fly. If you are not controlling those elements then the taking of more runway is just a crutch for some missing links in a pilots bag of tricks and abilities.
Just something else to work on as I transition This sounds right on to me!

USMCFLYR
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That was describing what other pilots do....I for one practice license/job preservation landings which does not include the word "greaser" anywhere in the verbiage.
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Quote: That was describing what other pilots do....I for one practice license/job preservation landings which does not include the word "greaser" anywhere in the verbiage.
That sounds like a good plan considering your aircraft has a natural tendency to land like a pile of bricks. Gotta love that dash
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Quote: I wonder if both had 1500 hours and an ATP
of course not, if you have 1,500TT and an ATP, you are immune to these possibilities...
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umm cant that pt6 be fully reversed? I was under the impression that those things approach at like 80 kias and w/ RT should stop on a dime?
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Quote: umm cant that pt6 be fully reversed? I was under the impression that those things approach at like 80 kias and w/ RT should stop on a dime?
You are correct.. Perhaps they were doing a VMO approach with simulated brake failure. Not the easiest thing to do
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Quote: You are correct.. Perhaps they were doing a VMO approach with simulated brake failure. Not the easiest thing to do
No, I suppose not!
This is interesting, it makes me wonder what happened.
does anyone have an update?
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