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Originally Posted by fjetter
I did a search and didn't come up with much. Just curious what some opinions are and if they have had this situation, with references.
If you have successfully completed an IPC in an airplane and have it signed off as such do you still need to do a BFR? I read 61.56(d) as yes you still need to do a BFR unless the IPC was done with an examiner, an approved pilot check airman, or US Armed Force.
Another instructor and I were debating this. I feel that the flight with a CFII could count as a flight review and an IPC however it requires a sign-off as a flight review for 61.56 and a seperate sign-off as an IPC to comply with 61.57. The CFII doing the flight is still responsible to do the 1 hour ground required by 61.56 unless the pilot is a current CFI (in which renewal negates the 1 hr ground requirement for 61.56)
Any insights?
I'll say no. An IPC, by itself, does not count as a flight review.
The IPC consists of "a representative number of tasks required by the instrument rating practical test," while the flight review requires 1 hour of ground and 1 hour of flight training that "must include: 1) a review of ... part 91; and 2) a review of the maneuvers ... necessary for the pilot to demonstrate the safe exercise of the privileges of the pilot certificate"
While these two tasks can be accomplished on the same flight, the IPC does not require any ground training, while the FR does, and the IPC regulation specifically references the instrument PTS, while the FR references a more general "maneuvers."
If you wanted to do both in one flight, I would certainly say that doing an hour of ground on part 91, followed by a flight with instrument work to satisfy the PTS, and mix in the maneuvers the instructor felt were needed for a FR would satisfy anyone for both signoffs.
I personally would certainly count a "circle to land" approach as part of the requirements for the FR and the IPC.