Jetblue and AA merger noise - Page 3 - Airline Pilot Central Forums

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lsl80 , 05-25-2010 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by AAflyer

AA pilots in general, or ONE Ed White.. Keep posting, I just put on my I hate stupid people t-shirt.

Of course it was only one pilot who made the analogy public, but did you put on the I hate stupid people shirt then?

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PSACFI , 05-25-2010 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by elusive007

We've heard the same rumblings at Eagle about AA and Jetblue. While aa and b6 do have a lot of overlap keep in mind that might be exactly what AA wants.

Buying B6 ensures that AA can continue to compete in the NYC market against DAL and the proposed ual/cal.

As far as the overlap is concerned, AA desperately needs 100 aircraft. What better way to gain them than remove the overlapped routes and free up the E-190s for the routes that AA needs them for. AA gets 100 seat aircraft and crews to fly them on the (relatively) cheap. Bonus: no union mergers to hang the deal up!

just speculation...

Could AMR operate B6 separately or does the AA scope force a full integration?

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Fishfreighter , 05-25-2010 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by elusive007

Bonus: no union mergers to hang the deal up!

just speculation...

You still have to deal with SLI. And Allegheny/Mohawk would apply. If you think a Union merger would be ugly, that would pale in comparison.

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AAflyer , 05-25-2010 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lsl80

Of course it was only one pilot who made the analogy public, but did you put on the I hate stupid people shirt then?

I did, then took it off because I am at work, however sitting in the terminal watching people, I want to put it on again

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AceOnTheRiver , 05-25-2010 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fishfreighter

You still have to deal with SLI. And Allegheny/Mohawk would apply. If you think a Union merger would be ugly, that would pale in comparison.

Actually Jetblue doesn't have a seniority list that is recognized by the new law since they don't have a union and consequently don't have a contract seniority list. If any company buys or merges Jetblue that has union represented pilots then Jetblue will in all likelihood be stapled.

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AceOnTheRiver , 05-25-2010 04:26 PM

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Of course DOH would be a staple in AA's case anyway since JetBlue is so junior.

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iaflyer , 05-25-2010 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AceOnTheRiver

Of course DOH would be a staple in AA's case anyway since JetBlue is so junior.

I was joking about just that in another thread. I had said that "APA was recognizing the professionalism and dedication of the Jetblue pilots and agreeing to merge seniority lists via Date of Hire".

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shiznit , 05-25-2010 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Globaldriver53

My wife is a flight attendant with AA, she's hearing "noises" about merger talks between the two carriers, what say you ?

Up to three pages now based on the above statement? Wow.

In general, I don't pay attention to what is said aft of the cockpit door when it comes to what the company is doing in "corporate strategy".....

Heck, I barely listen to what's said forward of the cockpit door on the subject....

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jetpilot26 , 05-26-2010 03:08 AM

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Of course DOH would be a staple in AA's case anyway since JetBlue is so junior.

As a former TWA guy retiring with 38 years of service with TWA/AA, my DOH was senior to EVERY AA pilot.... but I retired # 3750 on the merged list. (and I was one of the lucky ones).

Every APA member should be hanging their head in shame on what they did to their "brothers" from TWA.

I missed the age 60/65 thing by several months, thankfully.

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aa73 , 05-26-2010 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jetpilot26

Yep, you were lucky you RETIRED from a viable airline instead of ending up unemployed. You're welcome.

Every TWA pilot should be hanging their head in shame for allowing their MEC to waive their seniority rights and accepting APA's proposal (which was crafted along the lines of the TWA/OZ deal - even though OZ got "DOH", a bunch of them ended up stapled due to TWA having not hired for six years, but you'll never hear that from a TWA pilot.)

Get a (retired) life.