Oh I got the point. I'm not a big fan of the sapa arrangement, I just wish there were other union options besides alpa. You are beyond oblivious, sticking up for alpa on a thread about TM.

In their own words, TM the aviation fraud of the century IS alpa! If you are an alpa nazi, now would be a good time to lay low.

Guys who think alpa is some sort of religion or brotherhood enable the perpetuation of everything that is wrong with the organization. Alpa is a business, which seems to reward it's management far better than it's shareholders. It would be great if we could have one national union, but alpa has spent decades phasing themselves out of that position.

If a few more people stood up and threw the BS flag maybe some things would get fixed.

Tim Martins joined the Mile High Club while scuba diving.

I heard they designed the F22 around Tim Martins starting with a picture of him sitting in a bucket seat.

I heard the Nevada gaming commission refused to give him a license to fight in the UFC because he "is just too powerful and might hurt someone".

Well now Ricky, I guess if you want to make it all personal....

.....try to not to be so pi$$y/bitter because YOU were too ignorant, stupid, or just flat out dumb to make a choice of where you went to work first. Remember, you (and others) can collectively thank the ALPA carriers that have negotiated/bargained for better pay and work rules that you know get to ride the coattails of.

That's about as nice as I can spell it out for you.

My post was meant as a joke. You missed the humor, you often do.

Tim Martins was the first knuckle dragger to walk up right.

alpa is a business and they certainly have a monopoly.

C'mon guys, put all that serious ALPA talk away. We are trying to have a good time here at someones expense.

I heard on his first flight lesson, TM did perfect lazy eights followed by a power off, soft field, short field landing that was such a greaser that an ant that he landed on later testified that he just had a slight headache after the encounter.

Chuck Norris had Tim Martins as his UPT instructor.

You may have gone too far with this one. I hope Mr. Norris doesn't frequent this board.