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Why should a Continental new hire on the 767 be paid more than the current $31/hr?
You are absolutely right. They shouldn't be. Why? Because you have people lining up to join this fray. There is also a vast amount of ignorance as well as arrogance plaguing our industry, and your argument right up there is why I do not consider airline pilots to be 'professionals.' At least not in the US. Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I still am looking for an answer on this. Why should a Skywest, ASA, XJT, American Eagle, Comair, RAH, Colgan, Mesa, etc. who all pay less than $25/hr for new hires, why should these new hires be paid anymore than that? Why should a Continental new hire on the 767 be paid more than the current $31/hr?
A true professional can leave his job, take his skills and experience and apply it somewhere else without skipping a beat, and even get an immediate raise by switching jobs. In the US airline industry... good luck with that.
Forget your newhires for a moment. Let's talk about that 767 captain...
So let's say he/she doesn't like the idea of merging with UAL and wants nothing to do with the new company. Well... can't pack up and go to Delta because he'll have to go back to making first year FO pay. How can you call that pilot a professional? He can't take his skills and go elsewhere.
On the other hand, you can have a G-IV pilot who was working for $140,000/year for Brand X. Now, this pilot notices things aren't quite right at his work, so this pilot decides to take his skills to Brand Y and he's fortunate that they value his experience and they're willing to start him at $155,000/year.
Which one of these is your "professional?" Apples and oranges?
OK, let's use airline-to-airline.
We all know that Emirates is in a huge hiring drive. They need something like 800 pilots within a year. Unlike in the US, at Emirates, your first year, you will live rather nicely. You'll have your housing fully paid for, utilities covered, you will be driven to/from work by the company, you will get your retirement, and you'll get your salary which ends up just being your pocket cash which is a little over $7000/month.
Let's say you spent 10 years at Emirates. You're a B-777 captain with several thousand hours in type, but you decide you don't want to be in Dubai anymore. You want to try something else. So you apply to Korean Air. You're hired, and off you go. Sorry, no $31/hour and back to FO on something, and you have commuting schedules. Instead, say hello to another 6-digit salary right off the bat.
Korean not your cup of tea? Wanna be in Europe? OK, there's Turkish Airlines - part of Star Alliance. You're based in Istanbul. Oh no... no $31/hour and disregarding your experience there either.
Let's suppose you're an FO... you're not a captain. No sweat... again, no $31/hour for you.
To answer your question as to why should newhires be paid more than pittance... if you don't know the answer to this, then you shouldn't be.
As I said before, pilots are their own worst enemies, and as long as US pilots continue to remain oblivious to the rest of the world and choose to remain beaten down, with no sense of their self-worth, and severely lagging behind their counterparts worldwide, they deserve everything they get.
US airline pilots should be the world leaders in every meaning of the word. The only thing the US airline pilots have over the rest of the world is experience. Your average US pilot is way more experienced than his counterpart overseas, and that's huge... but that inexperienced overseas counterpart is paid substantially more than a US pilot. Now, I don't know about you, but I find that embarrassing.
Until your average US pilot realizes that.....