Can anyone provide a subjective summary of pay and newhire QOL at USAirways? I'm interested in things like....

- Whats the future of the pay situation? Should one expect pay rates to remain the same or is there any talk of them increasing? If so, what would it take (a new contract I assume)? And, how long is a reasonable expectation (tomorrow, a month, a year, a decade, a lifetime)?

- What are the details of reserve? How many days off? How frequently are the 190 FOs on reserve used? Long/short call? Commutable?

- What are typical 190 trips like? Reduced rest? How many legs a day?

- Does the East vs West and stuff like that poison the cockpit or is it mostly left to message boards and crewrooms?

- Is there any chance of holding another airplane or base? If so, what else is "junior"?


Just trying to get a good idea of what a straight forward view of one would expect should they go to work at US Airways. Have already read all about and know about the East vs West issue, USAPA, etc. Looking to be able to make an informed decision should the opportunity present itself. Thanks everyone!

It will be great, your very own unicorn, that is issued during indoc. and the special sun glasses that shield you from the constant rainbow you will be basking in, makes-up for all the other B.S. Wide body capt upgrade in about a quarter century?

FWIW: Any time I've evered Jump Seated the crews always seem pleasant.... but I wouldn't say happy.

Good luck.

I must say with all the bashing out there..... Seems like a crap load of people all of a sudden will put the bashing aside and are applying.... No lack of applicants apparently.....

Life must really suck at the regional level nowadays if US Air is a step up....

What about the DAL / LCC slot swap?

On the Delta side many of the jobs will be flown by our regional carriers. What will be the effect on LCC's staffing?

Yep you know, the best way to make a decision is the have all the information. We all know about the east west stuff, but how about everything else?

It does. Working for US Airways would offer someone an opportunity to have a decent career. I've been stuck at a "good regional" as an FO for the past five and a half years. Anything that might offer a chance to get ahead is a step up in my opinion. Their pay is low but it is exactly the same as I am making now. I've applied for every job that I see doesn't require TPIC (because I don't have any) and keep my finger crossed that one day it will work out for me. It is kind of funny how all the airlines that some people consider to be second tier are getting flooded with people wanting to work there.

Man. 4th yr pilots at DAL on the junior narrowbodies make as more on rates alone than any AWA pilots(not their fault as hostages), and more than all narrowbody pilots and equal to 9yr 757/767 East pilots, also 3% more retirement.

Let's not even start with how much better the SWA pilots are doing......

How long are the USAPA pilots going to keep dragging down the industry with their inability to move on and accept reality and negotiate a contract that looks forward and not backwards?

Also, whats the total number of active pilots on the east and west sides?

I believe we have around 1450 pilots active on the West side.

No new contract for the forseeable future. It will take a lot more than an act of God to get this done. I will say that we were close to a joint contract until USAPA was voted in. The only sections left were pay and the company had an offer on the table for West rates plus about 10%. Paul Rice from ALPA had a letter from Kirby with the rates on it that a friend of mine saw. Once USAPA came in they told the company that they wanted to open up every TA'd section of the joint contract and so we are now stuck with what we have for a very long time. The East is waiting an arbitration ruling on whether or not LOA 93, their concessionary contract, has a snapback clause. That ruling is due any time soon. Most money is on a ruling not favorable to USAPA, based on the transcripts at the hearing.

We gave up the unicorns in favor of crew meals out West. Very tasty with BBQ sauce.

Congratulations to any that get hired. Keep your resume up to date and your interview skills honed. You will get some nice jet time here but this is not a final career stop.