I know that the company can't change your training date within 30 days. I was 38 days from training, set to start at the beginning of Aug. They already removed me from a carryover trip in July with pay for training, I have the ITU line on my calander for Aug and I received a crew notification saying I was to start training in the beginning of AUG a few days before the new training letter came out. They moved my training date back to a time that I can not attend due to a prior commitment that I can't back out of. So now I am scrambling to swap trainig dates. My question is this; Had I told the company that I could not attend training this fall due to a prior commitment, would they have worked with me or would I be S.O.L. and on my own to try to swap? I know this can't help me now, but I'm curious if this would come up again in the future. I thought about calling and asking before the training letter came out, but once I was removed with pay from the trip, I never thought they would change my date. I can't imagine them wanting to pay me for doing nothing.

Recommend you call your ACP, first. If you transit MEM, try to speak face-to-face. Give "them" a chance to work with/for you. Just my $0.02. Good luck.

Why can't we just bid for our training dates? We bid on everything else.

I agree 100%.

Why don't we just run an aircraft bid every month? Those that bid and are given an award train the next month. Can't train next month? Don't bid, there will be another one in a month. There are always unintended consequences to everything but isn't this how it is usually done outside purple?

Yet another low cost/no cost contract item that needs to be addressed in our upcoming section 6 negotiations. My personal contract objectives are focused on quality of life improvements and bidding for specific training slots is high on the list.

We are one of the only major carriers that do seat bids in a completely open-ended, "take one for the team" mentality. Last time I checked, we worked for a for-profit company that should post job openings with a specific starting & ending date. We shouldn't be signing up to be sent off to train for 2-3 months "starting anytime between now and forever". We each have life commitments that are equally as important as our employer's needs. Most other carriers balance these needs by posting specific training dates for all seat bids. The time is now for us to join them. Don't accept another agreement without this!!

Because this would make sense!

1st Overnite,

Unfortunately, I believe that you must complete any training swaps 45 days prior to the start date.

Just to make sure I understand this clearly:

Once we are within 30 days of our training date, the date cannot be changed to an earlier, nor a later, date?

What about the training date being cancelled? I imagine that can happen up to the day before training? Or is there a time frame in which we are guaranteed our specific training date?

Just trying to semi-finalize some plans for later this year, and a little hesitant to do it since I've seen my training date move quite a bit within a 3-month window.

Thanks.

Take a look at the CBA Section 11.D.1. That should make it clear as mud.