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07-31-2018, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by A Squared
Why would the FAA care what a company puts in it's manual about how company employees interact while not aboard the aircraft? Once the the passengers are, deplaned, the logbook signed, the aircraft is powered down and transferred to the ground crews and the crew is in the terminal, walking away, why would the FAA care if the GOM instructs them to all hold hands to the hotel, or scatter to the 4 winds? The FAA has no compelling interest nor jurisdiction at that point.
Last edited by captjns; 07-31-2018 at 01:08 PM.
07-31-2018, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by captjns
The FAA does have a vested interest that crewmembers are in compliance, with their duties and responsibilities, I/A/W the Company’s GOM.
Uh-huh, but as far as the FAA is concerned, their duties and responsibilities have ended when they are walking away from the airplane.
Suppose that an Airline submitted a GOM to the FAA which contained the statement that once the crew had left the airplane in accordance with their duties and responsibilities, the individuals were on their own recognizance as adults, and the captain had no authority over, or responsibility to them.
What possible basis would the FAA have for objection to that? What jurisdiction would the FAA even have for dictating internal HR policies during times when the crew is not operating the airplane?
07-31-2018, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr
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08-01-2018, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by StrykerB21
The AA guys behind us in ORD today. Ground told us to hold and give way to two incoming aircraft. The AA guy behind us; "We dont stop in ORD you guys!"
We do when were told to give way to traffic you tool.
We do when were told to give way to traffic you tool.
08-02-2018, 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by StrykerB21
The AA guys behind us in ORD today. Ground told us to hold and give way to two incoming aircraft. The AA guy behind us; "We dont stop in ORD you guys!"
We do when were told to give way to traffic you tool.
We do when were told to give way to traffic you tool.
08-02-2018, 08:02 AM
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I was taxiing in ORD once, and saw an AA737 haulin’ serious ass towards the intersection. I stoped, but my FO was trying to give me crap for stopping in ORD. He got a few words out when that 737 burned through the intersection like nobody else was around. At that point I calmly looked at the FO and told him that had I listened to him we might be on the news. Now that’s some TOTD stuff
08-02-2018, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by StrykerB21
The AA guys behind us in ORD today. Ground told us to hold and give way to two incoming aircraft. The AA guy behind us; "We dont stop in ORD you guys!"
We do when were told to give way to traffic you tool.
We do when were told to give way to traffic you tool.
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