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10-27-2018, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
For you, I guess there is no limit other than what your landing data calculations provide. Maybe you don’t calculate landing data – sounds like you just decide after you land if you were okay by what taxiway you make. To each his own.
One might reasonably conclude that for an airplane which normally lands at 70 knots with a 1200 ft rollout (and for which no tailwind limit exists) a 9000-10,000 ft runway is essentially unlimited. It's obvious he's not flying 121 jets, why try to insist he should be complying with 121 regulations and jet procedures?
10-27-2018, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by A Squared
It's obvious he's not flying 121 jets, why try to insist he should be complying with 121 regulations and jet procedures?
Hence my acknowledgment of that and my bad assumption. Not insisting he do anything of the sort.
10-27-2018, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
Hence my acknowledgment of that and my bad assumption. Not insisting he do anything of the sort.Oh really? You need to review your post, even after acknowledging that he probably wasn't flying 121, you still continued on to make your snotty, condescending comments about not calculating landing distance and assuming it was ok after the fact.
Are you really trying to claim that this:
sounds like you just decide after you land if you were okay by what taxiway you make. To each his own.
10-27-2018, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by A Squared
One might reasonably conclude that for an airplane which normally lands at 70 knots with a 1200 ft rollout (and for which no tailwind limit exists) a 9000-10,000 ft runway is essentially unlimited. It's obvious he's not flying 121 jets, why try to insist he should be complying with 121 regulations and jet procedures?
10-27-2018, 09:21 PM
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TOTD goes to the guy in an RV4 that was doing his run up ON THE RUNWAY and made us go around.
Apparently he hadn’t read the NOTAMS since 2016 and missed the fact that the hold short lines were pushed back and was no longer the “safety area” he still insisted existed.
Apparently he hadn’t read the NOTAMS since 2016 and missed the fact that the hold short lines were pushed back and was no longer the “safety area” he still insisted existed.
10-28-2018, 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by A Squared
.... wasn't intended to be denigrating and a backhanded way of implying that he should be doing performance calculations. ?
10-29-2018, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
Oh.. wow. Tell me more about this "outside the US" you speak of. And "hostile neighbors".... I think I peed myself a little just typing it.
Look you clown. If your company allows you to ignore manufacturer flight manual ops limits and do whatever you want, then have at it. I don't have that option nor did any other 121 airlines I worked for.
Regardless of thermals or tailwinds that turn to headwinds - If I'm looking at more than a 15 knot tailwind when I cross the threshold, I'm not allowed to land. I value my job, my license and the safety of our crew far more than being able to come on to APC and try to impress everyone with my war stories of crazy winds and scary neighbors. I'm not interested in comparing war stories from another life. Now I get stuff from A to B safely while complying with the restrictions my employer and aircraft manufacturer have imposed on me.
Look you clown. If your company allows you to ignore manufacturer flight manual ops limits and do whatever you want, then have at it. I don't have that option nor did any other 121 airlines I worked for.
Regardless of thermals or tailwinds that turn to headwinds - If I'm looking at more than a 15 knot tailwind when I cross the threshold, I'm not allowed to land. I value my job, my license and the safety of our crew far more than being able to come on to APC and try to impress everyone with my war stories of crazy winds and scary neighbors. I'm not interested in comparing war stories from another life. Now I get stuff from A to B safely while complying with the restrictions my employer and aircraft manufacturer have imposed on me.
10-29-2018, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jpso
Performing my walk around the aircraft in ATL, no safety vest on because the aircraft doesn't have one and we don't have any extra available according to mx. Non-reving Delta FO boards while I'm outside, walks up front to tell the CA that I'm not wearing my safety vest.
This guy was the crown jewel of tools.
This guy was the crown jewel of tools.
Get yer own vest you cheap tool.
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