It's actually weird to keep the lights off, keeps guys from getting tired. Do you close and lock the bathroom door when you poop in your hotel room

Hahaha! I do, i think it's just The force of habit. Also don't want that aroma filling up the place.

Which reminds me of another one...ppl who drop a deuce in the forward lav where the smell wafts into the cockpit and I'm catching it full force. Knowing what it is and where it comes from makes it worse.

Well I'm thinking now I'm the tool for liking dim lights...when everyone else prefers bright. It sure hurts the eyes though. Good thing I never complain to the other pilot and let them do their thing.



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DEN based guy?

Well that's why he's the Captain, and you're what??? Oh yeah the F/O. But hey if and when you make the left seat, that is if there are still pilots in the cockpit, I'm sure there'll be an F/O to find issues to nit pick about you and post comments on APC.

I have to wonder just how potent your doo is, if you have to LOCK the bathroom door to contain the odour to the confines of the water closet! {grin}

I'm with the other posters - I suspect you haven't done enough oceanic crossings in the middle of the night to really appreciate the benefit of lighting in overcoming your body's circadian rhythms.

That's the beauty of CPDLC. Set the od alarm clock to 10 minutes before the next FIR or switch over point, dim the lights and enjoy the dull humm of the motors.

Can I nominate the PFs (FOs in my case, often with less than a year of experience burning jet A) who get butt hurt when I offer a helpful tip based on my thousands of hours in the jet?

Example:
(FO spends 20 seconds heads down and about 10 extra button clicks in the FMS fumbling to draw an intercept to a fix on an ILS)

Me: You know, you can just put the IAF behind the aircraft and it will auto-sequence and draw the line for you.

FO: *blink* Yeah but...I like doing it that way.

Me: *shrug*

Or when I point out a deviation from a clearance.
(ATC assigns 210 knots while level on downwind into a major airport with aircraft ahead and behind us and we have been doing 230+ for almost a minute)

Me: Hey man, don't forget he wants us at 210.

FO: I know. I just don't like jockeying the throttles all over the place.

Me: Well I don't know that you've come anywhere close to 210 since we got the clearance so you are going to need to touch the thrust at some point.

FO: *Huffs and makes big show of yanking the thrust to idle*

Or maybe this is just how it feels to become an old fart?

Haha! Touché!

And that's why I don't argue I just let them fly it..why act like a baby and get into arguments in the air?

I once had an fo like that and it all makes for good practice in just letting things go, stress free baby!

Love this thread


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I hear you on the getting stonewalled when offering a shortcut to the noob. More than one way to skin a cat, some easier than others. But I don't know that I'd call deviating from a clearance with the potential to cause a separation issue or worse, a wake turbulence upset, "stress free"

But hey, why insist the aircraft at least be flown within ATP tolerances when you can just "let it go"?

Don't feel alone. Its all part and parcel to the "entitlement" generation. They only take pride in being Level 259 in some video game. They could care less about the professional pride that comes with flying a jet within prescribed parameters.

Its enough to make any old fart grumpy.