American, unions to begin mediation talks - Page 4

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Wingtips , 06-17-2012 10:01 AM

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AMR will come the night before with an 11th hour deal if this is not put to vote.

They know that they will be running over the beehive with a lawn mower if the contract is tossed. I honestly think its very possible Lane might not throw it out, and this puts them into another 6 months of talks. This puts all new regional feed and planes on hold, will put the Brazilian bank through the roof, put AMR is a god awful spot since they just sent back 40 ATRs and are so short on airplanes at Eagle its not even funny, not to mention the CHQ contract ends in March for 15 more planes.

AMR NEEDS to get this done now, 6 more months of this crud means a USAIR deal gets more traction than ever. If I were APA I would let it the clock run down to the last second, AMR needs this all solved esp the pilots more than the pilots need a deal. They are fighting USAIR and 6 more months of trying to toss the contracts, or the pilots going out to lunch permanently both will force the merger by Sept 1st.

#32

What , 06-17-2012 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Wingtips

AMR will come the night before with an 11th hour deal if this is not put to vote.

I think the folks sitting in Centerport are to cocky to make this happen, but with the last so called best offer we might see it happen.

They know that they will be running over the beehive with a lawn mower if the contract is tossed. I honestly think its very possible Lane might not throw it out, and this puts them into another 6 months of talks. This puts all new regional feed and planes on hold, will put the Brazilian bank through the roof, put AMR is a god awful spot since they just sent back 40 ATRs and are so short on airplanes at Eagle its not even funny, not to mention the CHQ contract ends in March for 15 more planes.

AMR exclusive period without having someone else being able to put a bid for AMR to match runs out in a few months, if these contracts are to be rejected it will be interesting to see how the UCC reacts since the 3 unions are on board with a merger and HP might be ****ed at AMR right now, boing will go with whoever buys shinny jets! if the contracts go out the window we could see a large number of pilots walk away and force AMR to make a deal or shut down international operations, we already saw what a few hundred retirements in a quarter did to the operation. This would only drive the creditors away from the current management regime.

AMR NEEDS to get this done now, 6 more months of this crud means a USAIR deal gets more traction than ever. If I were APA I would let it the clock run down to the last second, AMR needs this all solved esp the pilots more than the pilots need a deal. They are fighting USAIR and 6 more months of trying to toss the contracts, or the pilots going out to lunch permanently both will force the merger by Sept 1st.

APA doesn't gain anything by having the membership vote on this, if the judge rejects the CBA then they will get AMR terms and the company doesn't want this since it will slow the operation down, if the 1113 gets rejected then leverage swings towards the pilots since it will drag for a while longer. Other thing to consider is that is APA is able to keep the SCOPE loss at a minimum considering the situation this could swing the Delta TA voting that closes on the 29th and also have an effect on United negotiations. I don't think AMR management wants the Pilot's 1113 to get to the judge because either way with the current dynamic AMR management will loose.