AA pilots vote to reject TA 61% NO to 31% Yes - Page 3

#21

Mesabah , 08-08-2012 12:45 PM

:-)

It's highly likely that AMR will give a better deal to the pilot group rather than go to the judge. The 1113(c) process is very likely to be won by APA.

#22

Phuz , 08-08-2012 12:46 PM

Kerbal Rocket Surgeon

From another RJ FO thank you AMR pilots for showing some serious backbone in turbulent times.

#23

hockeypilot44 , 08-08-2012 12:55 PM

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As long as you don't voluntarily give anything up (by voting in something), you have a right to keep fighting. If anything is taken from you, you can fight for it back. If you vote it away, it's gone forever.

#24

El Gwopo , 08-08-2012 12:56 PM

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Just a quick thank you from your frendly neighborhood CAL pilot. Very nice. You guys really showed what a pilot group with a backbone looks like. You didn't cave on SCOPE like those DAL wusses. They certainly have made life miserable for our negotiations. Thanks again to APA pilots holding strong!!

#25

7576FO , 08-08-2012 12:58 PM

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Thanks guys! It was a 6 year duration for the TA. The way AA negotiates, it'd been a 10 year contract.

Our contract was amenable May 2008. AA opened early on us in Sept 2006. We had been negotiating since 2006!

Many of us would have retired under this concessionary TA in the next 10 years.

AA73, Eaglefly and myself and others here, were outspoken NO voters.

To have voted in this concessionary contract would have been bad for EVERYONE!

#26

mvndc10 , 08-08-2012 01:00 PM

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Congrats on voting down that POS....

I'm glad to see a Pilot group with some ball's..

You management Sucks.....DELETED ACL65PILOT

#27

LittleBoyBlew , 08-08-2012 01:09 PM

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Congratz to the AA pilots, from a beat down US pilot...I wish our guys had the BRASS cojones that your group has displayed. Beers on me if we cross paths. Fight the good fight..

#28

UASnake , 08-08-2012 01:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 7576FO

Thanks guys! It was a 6 year duration for the TA. The way AA negotiates, it'd been a 10 year contract.

Yep, we've been living with our UAL BK contract for 9 years+. It's great to see a pilot group with some self-respect and the balls to say hell no to the BS that AMR was trying to sell you.

#29

LittleBoyBlew , 08-08-2012 01:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VenetianFryCook

Now what? Judge rejects the contract. AA imposes the original term sheet, without the pay, scope, and BK claim improvements from the TA. Beyond that is anybody's guess. I really doubt AA will come back to the table.

Not saying this was the wrong vote ... if I were an AA-er, not sure how I would have voted. However, this is definitely the path with more questions than answers ...

I take it that YOU would have accepted any POS TA just to keep your job??
Had you been on the property, you probably would have voted for LOA 93!!....pathetic..

#30

LittleBoyBlew , 08-08-2012 01:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jetlink

Although I admire your courage guys; however, sometimes you have to choose your battles carefully. Sometimes you have to take what you can and fight the other day. I'm sorry, but I think you just gave AMR more ammunition to weaken your troops.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7576FO

Do you fly for AA? Did you read the LBFO? Do you have a United States passport? Get out of my country if you cannot fight a battle!

We read it, we understand choosing our battles carefully. We voted NO for us, and for the profession.

People like you make me sick. We the pilots of AA took a 23.5% pay cut and lost lots of work rules and benefits to keep AA out of BK then. Turns out it was BS.
AA has $6.5 B this was a BK out of convienience to gut the employee union contracts.
7576FO

+1...pathetic!! That guy probably sits to take a wizz...