So what happened to my thread? It just disappeared. Anywho, word on the street says the new JCBA will allow 76 seat RJs in exchange for 300 total UAX airframes. UAL currently has 539 UAX airframes (504RJs, 35 TPs). I guess some RJ moderator (rickair??) thought this was flame bait. It's not. Just rumored info.

Sled

yeah some mods are tripper happy moving threads. Look under your profile on the threads you created?

It's gone there too. I was expecting a PM from a mod telling me why he pulled it. Nothing. It's just GONE.

Sled

Also rumored, all the new 787s will be going to gojetssss. Mine has as much proof presented as yours.

yeah, that's likely..... 200+ Express planes going away....where have I heard that before? Oh yeah, the new Delta contract. Sounds pretty similar to me.
We will find out in about a month.

Sled

Makes sense... 50 seat profit/cost being so slim. In times when furlough clauses mean next to nothing, scope is one of the few means of increasing job security and protection. Given the number of furloughs that United has currently and the fact that they have increased their regional feed at the same time --( if I were there and voting)-- I wouldn't vote for a JCBA that didn't produce massive RJ cuts.

HAHA. No doubt gojetssss will get a helluva lot of the new airplanes. Probably see some good growth over there as they have no 50 seaters to park.
On another note. This should make the new ATP hiring standards easy to comply with. There will be plenty of qualified pilots out there.

Sled

The fact is the regional jet industry doesn't make sense when you break it down.

The CR7/9s and E170/175's aren’t that much more efficient than the 50’s and their still much less efficient when compared to all mainline jets. The difference is there are more seats and a dozen or so premium seats to pull the small margins off of. They also allow for increased capacity without increasing flights.

Just examples and you can break them down more if you like. The CR2 burns about 2500 lbs. /hr. at cruise which is about 50lbs/hr./seat. The CR9 burns about 3700 lbs./hr. which is about 48.68 lbs./hr./seat. That’s not much better than the 50. From my jumpseating on AirTran’s 73’s I’ve noticed average burns of around 5000 lbs./hr. at cruise which is about 36.5 lbs./hr./seat. On Delta’s 73-8s I seen burns around 6000 lbs./hr. which is about 37.5 lbs./hr./seat. I don’t have it on me but I know Delta plotted their CASMs for all mainline and all regional jets. Every regional jet had a higher CASM and any mainline jet (DC9 included).

Why are you calling me out??? I didn't delete it, an admin did. I'm not sure why it's flamebait but the admin is in a better position than I to understand UA contractual issues. But I'm sure you'll get violated again if you reposted it without fixing whatever you did wrong in the first place.

I pulled the thread, PM sent to the OP.