Delta also hired. UAL hired.

We really didn't have to furlough, no reason for that.

Ridiculous slime, that's pretty funny. You know slime can be found everywhere.

Well, totally agree with part of this!

anyway 1-2 months and we have an ISL, look forward to this phase of the merger being over!

You guys conveniently forget that all your talk of growth from airplane orders placed in 2005 was null and void when the DAL / NWA merger came in 2008. If your management thought that the CAL business plan could handle that watershed event, CAL management would not have intervened when Tilton and Parker began serious discussions again in early 2010. Obviously, paying for new airplanes while growing organically in a radically changed competitive environment was not going to work.

There was no mutual agreement in the mediation phase. Can't imagine why we did it really, other than that the process agreement agreed to all sides said we had to try. Was never going to be a mutual agreement.

This cannot possibly be arbitrated under McCaskill. This is an ALPA dispute (i.e. both ALPA carriers). There is a full merger integration agreement between both sides of the dispute signed by all relevant parties that outlines the process, chose the arbitrators, and set the timelines. The outcome of the arbitration will be applied. I expect that will occur mid-late August.

Speaking to lawsuits, etc... those would be individuals or groups of individuals. I suspect that will occur, and that they will be unsuccessful. The list will stand, we will be integrated, and hopefully we'll all feel wronged just a little bit.

On de-cert, there is nothing stopping any group from attempting to change representation. Going on right now at Delta. It wouldn't stop the UCH list from being implemented, however. I expect ALPA National will certify and push the list to United very quickly in this case.

To finish your line of outcomes that wouldn't be allowed, we can also all whine as much as we like. Not that anyone will care.

Scott

I can't believe people are still arguing over which airline was the crappiest..??? Who care's. They both sucked for different reasons. Act like college educated people and discuss things that matter. On that, we've got to get the 2 pilot cultures to blend at some point so we can get things done when we need to. This means that we'll all have to give and take a little bit.

I can tell you I am probably the most awful negotiator you'll ever meet. I want what I want and I'd rather negotiate with my knee in your chest and knife at your throat. But, this pilot group can't do that with each other as we have to work together for a long time and nothing will be gained by it. Give each other a little slack and listen twice as much as you talk. Hopefully, we can make the place a fun environment in the future.

Agree.

Scott

Not trying to be a jerk but it is all laid out in the arbitration reports. Many factors were considered by both sides. How the arbitrators weigh the factors is anybody's guess. Anybody who claims to know how it will end up is just trying to start trouble.