I think you missed the point. The OP is saying "don't go to Endeavor" NOT "don't be a pilot" or "don't got to a regional"....

Actually, I read it as he's only saying don't fall for the ETD carrot.


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Dont go to a place that has a quick upgrade!! once economy crashes again as the cycle is due shortly all upgrades stop!! Go where best QOL and best pay is. Always plan for the worst and hope for the best. Plan on being stuck somewhere for many years(worst case senario).

More like normal case scenario.

ACA (Atlantic Coast Airlines for the youngsters) had the best contract and conditions (for a regional) in 2000. And for me a two year upgrade in the CRJ200. Most of us know how that turned out. What's best now is a dice roll in the future. That being said, my lot is currently cast with Envoy...

If possible, please report back to the group on whether the class was filled and whereabouts pilots are coming from. This should serve as a bellwether for the real hiring situation in the regionals right now.

The problem with Endeavor now, is that every month it seems there is another concessionary LOA to keep this place running. I hear on the line all the time that this place needs to stay open long enough so people can get out of here. The bankruptcy was clearly not the end of concessions here.

The SSP, and EtD has obviously made that much worse, it's perpetual probation for anyone who wants to participate in those programs. I have already ran into a pilot who was clearly sick as a dog, however, refused to call in sick because his SSP interview was coming up. This is what this operation has become.

Totally agree!!!

Some of the best guys I know are at Endeavor Air. I pray each if them gets a lucrative career at Delta Air Lines.

I dont wish bad on anyone.