First Leg/Last Leg Drop - Page 3 - Airline Pilot Central Forums

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Commuterguy , 08-28-2014 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by cesnacaptn

Alaska pilots may drop or trade any portion of their trip to any other pilot in any city. Case in point, I needed a day off. I flew 3 of 4 days of my trip. I slept at the outstation on the 3rd night. Day 4, I jumpseated home to go to my shindig, while my friend jumpseated to the outstation to fly the last 2 legs of my trip back to our domicile.

We can also pick up trips off other pilots in others domiciles pilot-to-pilot. In theory, you could be a jr lineholder in Anchorage, but live in Seattle. You could theoretically drop all of your ANC trips p2p and pick up a full line in Seattle.

Hello cesnacaptn,

If you are trying to drop the first or last leg do you just put it up for drop and hope that someone who is commuting on that flight picks it up? Do you have the ability to look and see who is listed standby I.e. a fellow captain, first officer or whatever the case may be... and then contact them directly? Apparently JetBlue is able to do this.

At WestJet we can not see who is listed STBY or non rev. We just have to hope they see the drop and pick it up.

Do you use Flica as well?

Thanks again

#22

cesnacaptn , 08-28-2014 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Commuterguy

We do not use flica. Our interface is called eMaestro and I believe it is a Jeppesen product.

We can only post trips or parts of trips on a bulletin board and hope someone will take it.

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Commuterguy , 08-29-2014 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cesnacaptn

We do not use flica. Our interface is called eMaestro and I believe it is a Jeppesen product.

We can only post trips or parts of trips on a bulletin board and hope someone will take it.

Can you see if another captain is listed on the flight? We do not have that option at WestJet.

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cesnacaptn , 08-29-2014 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Commuterguy

Can you see if another captain is listed on the flight? We do not have that option at WestJet.

We don't have that option either.

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shoelu , 08-29-2014 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Commuterguy

As a pilot with WestJet, we use Flica to view or schedule, drop entire pairing, part of the pairing or just drop the first or last leg of the pairing for commuting purposes.

I recently talked with a colleague who informed me that at Air Canada, they are not allowed to drop the first or last leg of their pairing. As well, I talked with a friend at JAZZ and they are allowed to do this. I guessed I assumed that this was the standard.

I am curious as to whether or not aircrew at Southwest Airlines are able to do this? For that matter, I would like to know which airlines are allowing first leg/last leg drops.

Best regards,

Commuterguy

At Southwest you can give away any leg or multiple legs to another individual that is willing to take them from you. First leg, last leg, 1st, 2nd, 3rd legs etc.

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Commuterguy , 08-30-2014 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by shoelu

At Southwest you can give away any leg or multiple legs to another individual that is willing to take them from you. First leg, last leg, 1st, 2nd, 3rd legs etc.

Hi Shoelu and thanks for your reply. Do you have the ability to see who is listed non rev to determine if someone is flying STBY who could take your last leg? What do you use for scheduling? I.e. at WestJet we use Flica.

Are you a commuter and if so, how often do you find yourself in this situation?

Cheers

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Commuterguy , 08-30-2014 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by EMBFlyer

At US Airways, we have a "Last Live Leg Swap" option where you can swap with someone commuting to work to fly the leg for you and you can go home. I haven't gotten to use it, yet and I understand it's getting harder and harder to use due to FAR 117.

Hi EMBFlyer,

How can you tell if there is a fellow commuter sitting in the back commuting to work?

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EMBFlyer , 08-31-2014 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Commuterguy

Hi EMBFlyer,

How can you tell if there is a fellow commuter sitting in the back commuting to work?

We can see if there's a jumpseater listed on the on non-rev list. Sometimes, we recognize the name as a fellow pilot we know. Other times, we just see them at the gate when we walk up or when they board the airplane. It's anything we can do in advance. It's normally a last-minute thing.

#29

Commuterguy , 09-01-2014 01:05 AM

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Other airlines

How about United Airlines, American, Skywest, EasyJet, American Eagle, Air Tran. How do you guys handle the last leg drop.

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shoelu , 09-01-2014 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Commuterguy

You are unable to see "who" is listed, only the number of employees listed as non-revs. If you are in the situation of trying to give away the last leg, the easiest solution is to ask the ops agent if there are any SWA jumpseaters traveling on the outbound flight. If there is an available pilot, I simply ask if they would like to fly the leg for pay. If they are game a call to scheduling with a request for a "jetway trade" takes place. Schedulers check the legalities and process the trade if both parties verbally agree.

SWA uses Crew Web Access.

I do commute and am occasionally able to drop the last leg or, even better, get paid for my commute.