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Old 04-16-2022, 07:01 AM
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The latest word from our Flight Ops VP is they’re keeping everyone in the PDP.
They are. Likely going to be the only pool we hire from in the next couple years.
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Old 04-16-2022, 09:57 AM
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They are. Likely going to be the only pool we hire from in the next couple years.
Yes sadly I think AG thinks this will be a temporary problem for a few years. So shrinking is the way they want to go and just ride it out. I don’t see why anyone would come here now, I hear Skywest Seattle is pretty junior now.
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Old 04-16-2022, 11:36 AM
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Even more so now that they have a bunch of Seattle flying to take over
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Old 07-20-2022, 11:17 PM
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Announced a few days ago. QX management claims total jet count 50 airframes by... oh lordy. 2026.
Also minimum time required to be a CA before flowing via Pathways is now 6 months.
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Has the last flight for the Q400 been confirmed?
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Has the last flight for the Q400 been confirmed?
Yes- Jan 26 https://www.reddit.com/r/AlaskaAirli...y_3_seats_left
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Old 12-30-2022, 08:44 AM
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This sounds kind of crazy but have heard this from two separate people saying the same thing independently. Just a rumor, but that around March Alaska is going to announce that they are 'absorbing' Horizon, one seniority list.

Can there be any truth to this? Seems outlandish but nowadays who knows.
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Old 12-31-2022, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyawaywayback View Post
This sounds kind of crazy but have heard this from two separate people saying the same thing independently. Just a rumor, but that around March Alaska is going to announce that they are 'absorbing' Horizon, one seniority list.

Can there be any truth to this? Seems outlandish but nowadays who knows.
No truth to it whatsoever
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Old 01-01-2023, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyawaywayback View Post
This sounds kind of crazy but have heard this from two separate people saying the same thing independently. Just a rumor, but that around March Alaska is going to announce that they are 'absorbing' Horizon, one seniority list.

Can there be any truth to this? Seems outlandish but nowadays who knows.
Don’t listen to rumors. The employees are airways the last to hear news, this includes rumors from check pilots and even mid level management.

Even if a merger were to happen it’d be less beneficial to QX pilots that you might suspect. Better to use pathways to get on the Alaska seniority list.
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Old 01-01-2023, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyawaywayback View Post
This sounds kind of crazy but have heard this from two separate people saying the same thing independently. Just a rumor, but that around March Alaska is going to announce that they are 'absorbing' Horizon, one seniority list.

Can there be any truth to this? Seems outlandish but nowadays who knows.
Probably not.

Because they cannot "absorb" the seniority list without doing an SLI, governed by A-M and M-B laws.

The senior QX pilots would insist on DOH and the AS pilots would openly revolt if their already lukewarm career expectations are further diluted by ANYONE coming in on top of them. So the company would kick a real hornet's nest by going there... that chaos (and legions of mainline FO resignations) would not be worth whatever benefit they might hope to gain.

It could happen if the QX union agrees to a staple, which they might or might not depending on MEC demographics and personalities. This happened before with DAL and COMAIR; the senior lifer union peeps got greedy and demanded DOH... DAL showed them the palm and then liquidated them.

Depending on QX scope protections, AAG might or might not be able to transfer the planes to AS one at a time and then "offer" the pilots new jobs. Problem there would be that AS CBA probably would not permit the assignment of "new" pilots to "DEC" RJ CA positions without a system bid. So ASALPA would have to play LOA ball somehow. Also AS CBA does not have RJ rates, so that would be a Can O' Worms too.


This smells like the kind of Big Announcement rumor that Company Men in the training dept might spread.
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