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Old 05-20-2016, 06:10 PM
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Thanks. I wonder why nothing official has been released on the matter.
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Old 05-20-2016, 06:31 PM
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Fear of mass exodus?

Come to think of it, I believe most have become numb from the bad news airline.
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Old 05-21-2016, 03:35 AM
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It is beyond stupidity as to why you keep posting when you don't even work here. I'm curious as to how you even got an ATP with the mental deficiencies you exhibit.

Guess what? We are still flowing. The flow is working as intended. Get over it!
We are so glad to have you back. You gave us loads of good information here as to how this flow is going to continue to work.

A Ponzi or Pyramid scheme requires unsuspecting saps that will provide money or a service to keep the facade going. The service is bodies that will fly as FO's and the facade is the flow.

The problem is, there very, very few pilots out there to keep the facade going for Envoy and thus the reason that the flow will collapse on itself inside of 12 months. When I say collapse, I mean that the numbers going over will be cut sharply. Envoy may let 8 or 10 a month go only if they can staff what they need to fly.
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Old 05-21-2016, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by cr700 View Post
It is beyond stupidity as to why you keep posting when you don't even work here. I'm curious as to how you even got an ATP with the mental deficiencies you exhibit.

Guess what? We are still flowing. The flow is working as intended. Get over it!
If you call one new hire last class working then yes, like a charm.
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Old 05-21-2016, 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ag386 View Post
We are so glad to have you back. You gave us loads of good information here as to how this flow is going to continue to work.

A Ponzi or Pyramid scheme requires unsuspecting saps that will provide money or a service to keep the facade going. The service is bodies that will fly as FO's and the facade is the flow.

The problem is, there very, very few pilots out there to keep the facade going for Envoy and thus the reason that the flow will collapse on itself inside of 12 months. When I say collapse, I mean that the numbers going over will be cut sharply. Envoy may let 8 or 10 a month go only if they can staff what they need to fly.
There you go again, throwing out numbers like you actually know what you're talking about.

I'm far from a defender of envoy management. In fact, I think they're kids who don't know *** they're doing. But one thing I'll never do is spew my opinion as fact, like you do.

Btw, you never answered my question about your obsession with envoy either! Rumor is that you got "asked to resign" for busting one too many check rides?! Is this true?
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Old 05-21-2016, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Buzzlightyear View Post
If you call one new hire last class working then yes, like a charm.
How many in the next class?
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Old 05-21-2016, 08:35 AM
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How many in the next class?
Rumor is around 13-15 with 12 E-175 slots available.
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Old 05-21-2016, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3 View Post
Rumor is around 13-15 with 12 E-175 slots available.
This is correct..I just wanted the guy to have to answer. New hires are coming in proportion-roughly-to how many E175 slots are available. Sim time is saturated right now, and it's something that we are attempting to sort out.

Once we do, we will be able to offer more E175s to new hires and for upgrades. Plus, with an increased training capacity the +90 options come into play..with a few other variables to work out.
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Old 05-21-2016, 09:26 AM
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They've already said they're not farming out sim time. How are they going to fix capacity with finite sim availability?
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Old 05-21-2016, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox View Post
They've already said they're not farming out sim time. How are they going to fix capacity with finite sim availability?
Ric said that. Ultimately it's not up to him..its AA who makes the call. There is sim time available globally..including in Europe and I believe Brazil. Hashimoto doesn't want to screw up again...he's aware of the problem. He already has egg on his face from the decision to give so much flying to Mesa and not rectifying the MIA problem sooner.
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