New Envoy Information
08-16-2016, 10:52 AM
#4482
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Originally Posted by daOldMan
So, Envoy pilots were used to screw over Republic pilots? Huh. Seems like a pretty crappy thing to do.
Why do you guys work for that scummy airline?
Why do you guys work for that scummy airline?
08-16-2016, 10:59 AM
#4483
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
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I still don't have any concrete evidence, but it would appear that Republic was needing AA to pay them more due to their increased costs and AA didn't want to..as we suspected would happen. Republic wouldnt budge, so AA doubled down and indicated to them that they would just have Envoy replace them in ORD with 20 E175s initially.
Apparently that's when Republic caved and AA withdrew the vacancy. It was a bargaining chip from the beginning.
08-16-2016, 11:21 AM
#4484
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Actually its the other way. Keeping the e175 in Dallas to fly through mia. That's the poker game being played. Slightly biased, but with the shortage of pilots, higher fees paid by delta an united with expanded 175 flying at delta and united, the aa feed contract is costing rah money. While in bk they can get out of deal with as use those pilots for the expanded high fee pay delta and united flying.
AAG is same us air pig just with a different shade of lipstick.
AAG is same us air pig just with a different shade of lipstick.
08-16-2016, 12:56 PM
#4485
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Posts: 674
Originally Posted by daOldMan
So, Envoy pilots were used to screw over Republic pilots? Huh. Seems like a pretty crappy thing to do.
Why do you guys work for that scummy airline?
Why do you guys work for that scummy airline?
08-16-2016, 03:10 PM
#4486
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Position: A320 FO
Posts: 98
Originally Posted by buddies8
Actually its the other way. Keeping the e175 in Dallas to fly through mia. That's the poker game being played. Slightly biased, but with the shortage of pilots, higher fees paid by delta an united with expanded 175 flying at delta and united, the aa feed contract is costing rah money. While in bk they can get out of deal with as use those pilots for the expanded high fee pay delta and united flying.
AAG is same us air pig just with a different shade of lipstick.
AAG is same us air pig just with a different shade of lipstick.
08-16-2016, 06:15 PM
#4487
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Position: Violin on the Envoy-tanic
Posts: 175
Originally Posted by lakehouse
Did you know Im on target to make almost 80k this year as an fo, doing 3 day trips, getting 15 days off after a little ot.
08-16-2016, 06:27 PM
#4488
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Posts: 674
Originally Posted by TrinityDawn
Yea that's complete bull****. I hit 1,000 hours one year as an F/O and BARELY cleared 50k.
At senior FO pay you would need about 120 hours of OT to clear another ten grand which would get around 70k. Subtract some of those hours due to junior man and extension pay and figure about 100 hours of 200% OT in the year. That's a lot.
Maybe lakehouse can give us the breakdown. Perhaps a referral bonus or two maybe? I could be missing something.
08-16-2016, 07:15 PM
#4489
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Position: Violin on the Envoy-tanic
Posts: 175
In yet another slap in the face, the DFW CA rep was fired by the company for doing something the chief pilot's office has repeatedly told multiple pilots to do over the years. Basically, they're firing him because he does an excellent job representing the pilots, and they are violating two Federal laws in the process. Way to go AAG, that's a great way to show how wonderful things are at envoy!
08-16-2016, 07:18 PM
#4490
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Position: Violin on the Envoy-tanic
Posts: 175
Originally Posted by Jersdawg
Add the 10k bonus and that's up over 60, then add a bunch of 200% OT, and it seems possible to be into the 70s. I'm not so sure about nearly 80, though.
At senior FO pay you would need about 120 hours of OT to clear another ten grand which would get around 70k. Subtract some of those hours due to junior man and extension pay and figure about 100 hours of 200% OT in the year. That's a lot.
Maybe lakehouse can give us the breakdown. Perhaps a referral bonus or two maybe? I could be missing something.
At senior FO pay you would need about 120 hours of OT to clear another ten grand which would get around 70k. Subtract some of those hours due to junior man and extension pay and figure about 100 hours of 200% OT in the year. That's a lot.
Maybe lakehouse can give us the breakdown. Perhaps a referral bonus or two maybe? I could be missing something.
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