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10-10-2022, 06:23 AM

#10981

ClappedOut145

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Joined APC: Apr 2020

Position: AOG

Posts: 741

Management is just following the CBA. They do that when it is convenient for them.

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Originally Posted by CaseTractor

Aren’t people beating down the doors to apply, people waiting for months to get a class? If they are metering flow, it just doesn’t seem necessary with applications stacked high.

this will only cause people to bail and cause less people to apply. Why did they say this was necessary, does it affect the other two WOs?

20 a month down to 16 now?

10-10-2022, 06:39 AM

#10982

NoValueAviator

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Joined APC: Feb 2018

Position: Resigned

Posts: 1,547

Quote:

Originally Posted by highfarfast

Is that for the two thin skinned guys that don’t work here or is it for the rest of us making fun of them?

It's specifically directed at you of course

10-10-2022, 07:41 AM

#10983

highfarfast

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Joined APC: Nov 2016

Posts: 2,465

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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator

It's specifically directed at you of course

lol
/filler

10-10-2022, 02:55 PM

#10984

Blackhawk987

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Joined APC: Apr 2019

Position: UH-60A/L

Posts: 10

They will leave

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Originally Posted by Sasquatched

Sad day for the Envoy pilot group. Just when I thought management was coming around. I hope everyone attempts to speak with their feet. Get those apps out. Seniority is everything and all of ours at AA just took a big hit. Get out of here and let it burn. You might be surprised how little experience you need to get a call from UA or DL. It’s a race to decimate each other’s WO.

I honestly thought that Envoy was starting to pull out of their controlled decent into terrain. Flying with people from January to May and all anyone would talk about is the CJO that they got from DAL, UA, or SW. We were net loss 100 per month back then. Then they announced the money, the people with CJOs left anyway but a new breed of pilots started to emerge. From July until now this new group would say, “I’m making good money. I’ll flow in 1 to 3 years. I’m just going to wait for the flow.” I am predicting that with a reduced flow, making every line 4 four day trips a month at best, and now making almost everyone work weekends. The cockpit conversations will shift back to how quickly people can make their exit.
The company actually had a good thing going and they were starting to meet the goal of keeping people until their flow. We don’t have as many pilots around as we used to but I have faith that Envoy can make it hard enough enough to work here, (despite the pay) that we can get a few more months of 100+ pilots lost in a month. This isn’t a legacy, playing scheduling games before contract negotiations for PBS will have a different, longer lasting, detrimental effect than it is doing at Mainline before their chapter 6 negotiations. The pilot group here isn’t accruing AA seniority and they are still looking for their seniority at a legacy.