News on the new Skywest pay package
#1131
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 4,203
I'm going to guess you're a newb yourself. I doubt you have all that much seniority. DTW based I bet. Why don't you quit and go to one of these better regionals (or other jobs) you speak of. Why stay and be miserable? Everyone else is hiring. Quick upgrades, flow through. WTF are you still doing here? Waiting to take the first available upgrade and be back on reserve in DTW? Seriously, there are a bunch of big bonuses waiting for you. Go be happy somewhere else. You've ranted for 20 post over the last day about how this place sucks. Make your life better and GTFO.
And I'll give you a little history lesson. This airline is staffed rather well right now. We've been a hell of a lot shorter on pilots in the past. And crummy 200 flying out of DTW and MSP will always be the norm. There's nothing SkyWest can do about it as Delta decides the city pairs.
And I'll give you a little history lesson. This airline is staffed rather well right now. We've been a hell of a lot shorter on pilots in the past. And crummy 200 flying out of DTW and MSP will always be the norm. There's nothing SkyWest can do about it as Delta decides the city pairs.
If 20 years go you would have told me what it looks like today (huge bonuses, fancy ERJ's with vnav auto throttles, 150k+ a year, be able to trade trips on my phone, ect) i would have laughed at you...
#1132
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Joined APC: Apr 2010
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I agree there are better places to go. By the end of the year the training program is going to take a major turn where new hires will have to do a large majority of the traning via CBTs prior to showing up and will be given a PRIA test covering all the systems. But probably the worst aspect is the bs block verses credit garbage. This month alone I'm scheduled to block 13 hours more than I will be paid.
#1133
I agree there are better places to go. By the end of the year the training program is going to take a major turn where new hires will have to do a large majority of the traning via CBTs prior to showing up and will be given a PRIA test covering all the systems. But probably the worst aspect is the bs block verses credit garbage. This month alone I'm scheduled to block 13 hours more than I will be paid.
The company assigned credit value only matters if you fly really fast or don't fly the leg at all. Since the assigned credit is usually unrealistically low I generally block (and get paid) more.
If I could wave a magic wand and just have block or better I would...but there are more important things to negotiate for.
#1134
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Joined APC: Aug 2014
Posts: 313
He doesn't get it. He never flew a Metro, or even E120 doing 6 legs a day no autopilot, ect... in this SJS day and age, We have lost touch of what the regionals were 20+ years ago...
If 20 years go you would have told me what it looks like today (huge bonuses, fancy ERJ's with vnav auto throttles, 150k+ a year, be able to trade trips on my phone, ect) i would have laughed at you...
If 20 years go you would have told me what it looks like today (huge bonuses, fancy ERJ's with vnav auto throttles, 150k+ a year, be able to trade trips on my phone, ect) i would have laughed at you...
#1135
How is that going to work? They have enough failures as it is after a comprehensive three-week systems class! Majors can expect experienced turbine pilots to self-study on a jet before class, but good luck doing that with CFI's! They'll use auto-clickers to power through the CBTs and show up clueless!
#1136
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Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 846
Quote from the last Skywest second quarter earnings call:
"Michael, this is Chip. I’m impressed how much detail you know about this. I mean, from the perspective of how it impacts, but I don’t think you an extremely smart guy but I think that to see the last month or so I’ve been living there, its a little bit in DC and talk a lot of people about FAA reauthorization bill, and in our view, look we love the concept of it, but from our perspective it falls short in two distinct areas. One, it does not address the pilot issue, and fundamentally from our perspective -- I hate to speculate.
I will tell you that if we look at the data it is absolutely positively clear if we’re really going to move the dial on what is in very emotional safety issue. If we really want to look at concrete data to enhance safety relative to the situation we have to address it through additional training program and modify the pathway. I’m actually for 1500 hours, but I'm also for alternate programs that clearly need to be evolutionary towards safety. And I don’t think anybody who has looked at the data or is going to look at the data could argue that there is not some significant opportunity there.
Second of all, we’re a big concern about some of the funding model as it goes into reauthorization for a privatization of ATC and we’re optimistic and we’re very supportive of the overall process, but in its current form today I can tell you is falling short of what we think that several local communities both with the pilot issue and the funding issue, many local communities throughout America are going to have a bit impact if this is not addressed in this bill."
He is for the current language in the senate bill that will water down the ATP rule even more. Who feels silly?
#1137
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
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How is that going to work? They have enough failures as it is after a comprehensive three-week systems class! Majors can expect experienced turbine pilots to self-study on a jet before class, but good luck doing that with CFI's! They'll use auto-clickers to power through the CBTs and show up clueless!
#1139
That's right, he supports 1500 hr off the street hires. However if you put them in some condensed specific "focused" training then he sees some significant opportunities!
#1140
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Joined APC: May 2009
Posts: 2,035
He doesn't get it. He never flew a Metro, or even E120 doing 6 legs a day no autopilot, ect... in this SJS day and age, We have lost touch of what the regionals were 20+ years ago...
If 20 years go you would have told me what it looks like today (huge bonuses, fancy ERJ's with vnav auto throttles, 150k+ a year, be able to trade trips on my phone, ect) i would have laughed at you...
If 20 years go you would have told me what it looks like today (huge bonuses, fancy ERJ's with vnav auto throttles, 150k+ a year, be able to trade trips on my phone, ect) i would have laughed at you...
I flew both the metro and E120 and haven't come close to 150K+ a year. Still doing crappy 4 and yes even 6 leg turboprop trips on the CRJ200. It would be nice if all our bases had the decent pairings available to you and "Utah" in your base.
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