The Forbidden Discussion - Unions & Skywest
06-02-2017, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DirkDiggler
You do realize you can create your own union and not go ALPA correct? A pilot funded association and you call yourselves whatever you want. The point of the discussion is find out why pilots are okay with management funded representation.
Once established, it would also be hard to afford certain benefits which an alpa member would take for granted.
AA is big enough (and wealthy enough) to go it alone, SKW not so much.
Too bad there's not a national union for regionals only. I actually think that would be a good thing, force alpa majors to come to the table. Then perhaps regionals could either compensated better, or granted universal flow.
06-02-2017, 10:54 AM
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^yes, possibly a union that represents regionals only. Look at Mesa, Republic, GoJet, etc, all represented by ALPA. It's a conflict of interest in the truest sense, with the cons outweighing the pros (for regionals).
To the OP, what is your motive to push a union drive for a company you don't work for?
To the OP, what is your motive to push a union drive for a company you don't work for?
06-02-2017, 11:07 AM
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I like the idea. But remember when Eagle. Was 5 airlines... and the "devided" crew lounge. One side Wings West , 2 year Captains, the other Simmons 10 year FO's!!! How could you represent all airlines interests.. would be tuff..
06-02-2017, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TheFly
To the OP, what is your motive to push a union drive for a company you don't work for?
If SKW voted in ALPA, that would open up the *possibility* of a common-carrier petition, which might *possibly* succeed. Since XJT is...
a) More senior longevity-wise and
b) Possibly headed to the same place comair went
It's possible that some of their folks could have an ulterior motive, especially if you're a lifer with no other six-figure skill sets.
I voted yes last time, but if there were a next time I'd probably need to see some sort of independent analysis of the likely-hood of common-carrier and the ramifications before I decided.
06-02-2017, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
If you work for XJT...
If SKW voted in ALPA, that would open up the *possibility* of a common-carrier petition, which might *possibly* succeed. Since XJT is...
a) More senior longevity-wise and
b) Possibly headed to the same place comair went
It's possible that some of their folks could have an ulterior motive, especially if you're a lifer with no other six-figure skill sets.
I voted yes last time, but if there were a next time I'd probably need to see some sort of independent analysis of the likely-hood of common-carrier and the ramifications before I decided.
If SKW voted in ALPA, that would open up the *possibility* of a common-carrier petition, which might *possibly* succeed. Since XJT is...
a) More senior longevity-wise and
b) Possibly headed to the same place comair went
It's possible that some of their folks could have an ulterior motive, especially if you're a lifer with no other six-figure skill sets.
I voted yes last time, but if there were a next time I'd probably need to see some sort of independent analysis of the likely-hood of common-carrier and the ramifications before I decided.
06-02-2017, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Squallrider
Funny how expressjet guys always want Skywest to be union...wonder why....
Originally Posted by CBreezy
I don't think it's Expressjet. The rest of the airline jobs in this country are union and many want to know why Skywest pilots detest them.
Originally Posted by Squallrider
9/10 someone brings union up on Skywest thread they are at expressjet.
They aren't effective at regional level, look at expressjets, envoy, psa , Mesa threads and see if anyone is saying how great the union is.
They aren't effective at regional level, look at expressjets, envoy, psa , Mesa threads and see if anyone is saying how great the union is.
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06-02-2017, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
If you work for XJT...
If SKW voted in ALPA, that would open up the *possibility* of a common-carrier petition, which might *possibly* succeed. Since XJT is...
a) More senior longevity-wise and
b) Possibly headed to the same place comair went
It's possible that some of their folks could have an ulterior motive, especially if you're a lifer with no other six-figure skill sets.
I voted yes last time, but if there were a next time I'd probably need to see some sort of independent analysis of the likely-hood of common-carrier and the ramifications before I decided.
If SKW voted in ALPA, that would open up the *possibility* of a common-carrier petition, which might *possibly* succeed. Since XJT is...
a) More senior longevity-wise and
b) Possibly headed to the same place comair went
It's possible that some of their folks could have an ulterior motive, especially if you're a lifer with no other six-figure skill sets.
I voted yes last time, but if there were a next time I'd probably need to see some sort of independent analysis of the likely-hood of common-carrier and the ramifications before I decided.
06-02-2017, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by TheFly
^yes, possibly a union that represents regionals only. Look at Mesa, Republic, GoJet, etc, all represented by ALPA. It's a conflict of interest in the truest sense, with the cons outweighing the pros (for regionals).
To the OP, what is your motive to push a union drive for a company you don't work for?
To the OP, what is your motive to push a union drive for a company you don't work for?
06-02-2017, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
b) Certainly headed to the same place comair went
06-02-2017, 11:58 AM
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ASA side has more "lifers" then L-XJT..
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