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epicadv 02-09-2018 02:03 AM

Pay Comparison
 
I'm trying to make a simple comparison table of expected annual pay for an inexperienced FO (no ATP or type ratings) starting at a regional. Following is the table I have using the information available here at APC using 75 hours monthly.

SkyWest appears to be quite the outlier. I've asked a SkyWest recruiter if there are any bonuses in the future. The answer is "probably not for inexperienced folks" because "they have no trouble filling classes as is." This is a pretty big difference between regionals. One would expect the market to force equalization. I don't understand why it does not.

Is SkyWest really that much better of a place to work?

Code:

Airline          $/hr  Annual @    Yr 1  Total
                        75 / mon  Bonus    Yr 1
================================================
Air Wisconsin      36      32400  49000  81400
Trans State Air    36.35  32715  30000  62715
GoJet              37      33300  26000  59300
SkyWest            37      33300      0  33300


bonanza 02-09-2018 02:45 AM

I think it will change very soon. I am only speculating but it will not be long until they have to change something. I choose Skywest for a base and sooner start date. I was told the last month they only gained 5 pilots. If that trend continues going into 2018 something will change very soon. I would rather be in before the change. I tried hard not to base my decision on pay only and feel the pay will come with time.

N1234 02-09-2018 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by epicadv (Post 2523731)
I'm trying to make a simple comparison table of expected annual pay for an inexperienced FO (no ATP or type ratings) starting at a regional. Following is the table I have using the information available here at APC using 75 hours monthly.

SkyWest appears to be quite the outlier. I've asked a SkyWest recruiter if there are any bonuses in the future. The answer is "probably not for inexperienced folks" because "they have no trouble filling classes as is." This is a pretty big difference between regionals. One would expect the market to force equalization. I don't understand why it does not.

Is SkyWest really that much better of a place to work?

Code:

Airline          $/hr  Annual @    Yr 1  Total
                        75 / mon  Bonus    Yr 1
================================================
Air Wisconsin      36      32400  49000  81400
Trans State Air    36.35  32715  30000  62715
GoJet              37      33300  26000  59300
SkyWest            37      33300      0  33300


Whatever you do - avoid commuting at all cost even if that means less $$$. If you do have to commute either way to may as well follow the money.

Squallrider 02-09-2018 04:53 AM

Still able to get profit sharing bonus from day one, twice a year that’s about 1.5-2k for the year. We are in pay negotiations right now and I believe the time line will be short to completion. Watch this space.

emersonbiguns 02-09-2018 06:55 AM

Not that it changes much, but I think these numbers are a bit more accurate?

Code:

Airline          $/hr  Annual @    Yr 1  Total
                        75 / mon  Bonus    Yr 1
================================================
Air Wisconsin      36      32400  41000  73400
Trans State Air    36.35  32715  32000  64715
GoJet              37      33300  26000  59300
SkyWest            37      33300      0  33300


The Skywest draw for me is their size(stability?) and variety of bases. That could really reduce the odds/needs to commute.

hawk21 02-09-2018 07:19 AM

We are in pay negotiations.

Fill out the survey once it's released.

WesternSkies 02-09-2018 08:00 AM

Proudly industry lagging first year bonus.
To date this *whole* pilot group has benefited from the pilot squeeze.

Utah 02-09-2018 08:08 AM

You forgot to subtract out the 2 to 5 % we lose with the historical credit versus block. Our pay rates cannot be compared straight across.

Squallrider 02-09-2018 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by Utah (Post 2523890)
You forgot to subtract out the 2 to 5 % we lose with the historical credit versus block. Our pay rates cannot be compared straight across.

He’s basing it off minimum monthly hours.

Utah 02-09-2018 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by Squallrider (Post 2523908)
He’s basing it off minimum monthly hours.

Which means to get there we have to work more.


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