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Old 02-12-2018, 08:53 AM   #1
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Arrow The New "New" Pay Talks - 2018 Edition

So they begin.

Block or better?
Republic pay rates?
Endeavor pay rates?
Something greater than 1% but less than inflation?
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Old 02-12-2018, 09:53 AM   #2
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Block or better can just be manipulated again. Did Casper flight the other day. Probably the worst example. Credit was 1:40’ish block 2:10’ish. No deicing. We did it in 1:41.. got 1:41. Would the company just lower the “Block”...??... easy to drop it to 1:45 and still make the A14 goal 95% of the time. I would rather see $$’hr raise..match The other guys. And 1 extra day off a month in PBS, min Reserve levels of %20. If not meet then we get 150% over 80hrs flown.. faster User/Vac actual and more slots per week available...
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Block or better can just be manipulated again. Did Casper flight the other day. Probably the worst example. Credit was 1:40’ish block 2:10’ish. No deicing. We did it in 1:41.. got 1:41. Would the company just lower the “Block”...??... easy to drop it to 1:45 and still make the A14 goal 95% of the time. I would rather see $$’hr raise..match The other guys. And 1 extra day off a month in PBS, min Reserve levels of %20. If not meet then we get 150% over 80hrs flown.. faster User/Vac actual and more slots per week available...
Except the company does not set block times, the partners do. I wish more people would educate themselves before spewing nonsense.
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I do like the idea of 150% on every hour over “x” scheduled when below min reserves for however many days per month in your base.

Minimum 3 Days off following a work block > 4 days.

+1 min day off for line holders

Dump the rig, implement a min leg guarantee of 1.0.
Min stand-up 5.30
1 for 1 pay on actual duty > 12 hours.

.0385 user time accrual for all years of service.

Any new hire bonus must be distributed to the entire pilot as well. If bonus is later increased the difference will be paid out again.

Reflow after check-in is voluntary but must pay 150% minimum.
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Old 02-12-2018, 03:54 PM   #5
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Any new hire bonus must be distributed to the entire pilot as well. If bonus is later increased the difference will be paid out again.
But then it’s not a sign-on bonus...it’s just a pay rise.
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Why didn't you guys just say no to your proposed pay 6 months ago?
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I did......
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Why didn't you guys just say no to your proposed pay 6 months ago?
To get more jetzzzzzzz!
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Why didn't you guys just say no to your proposed pay 6 months ago?
I’m assuming you are assuming that the future would be now already.
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Why didn't you guys just say no to your proposed pay 6 months ago?
We didn't want to go out of business like the rest of the regionals and they were going to buy 100 CRJ-900's. Oh and Republic and Endeavor only raised their pay because we raised ours 1% according to SAPA.

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