The trend is bigger jets.
06-10-2018, 04:23 AM
#22
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: I pilot
Posts: 2,049
Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver
Delta isn’t scoped out on 50 seat flying...
06-10-2018, 08:16 AM
#23
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: the right side
Posts: 1,373
Originally Posted by zondaracer
Delta has actually had to remove 50 seat flying to meet scope. Their scope clause had trigger points requiring the reduction of 50 seat aircraft, which allowed more 70/76 seat aircraft. As said above, magic number is 125 50-seat aircraft.
06-10-2018, 09:55 AM
#24
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 2,145
Originally Posted by Excargodog
Hmm. Don't know what to say. Here is the URL for where I got my info:
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...300645286.html
And an identical posting in the New York Times business section:
SkyWest, Inc. Reports Combined April 2018 Traffic for SkyWest Airlines and ExpressJet Airlines - New York Times
Both allegedly also include express jet numbers...
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...300645286.html
And an identical posting in the New York Times business section:
SkyWest, Inc. Reports Combined April 2018 Traffic for SkyWest Airlines and ExpressJet Airlines - New York Times
Both allegedly also include express jet numbers...
A couple of interesting things. XJT flying is down 40% year-over-year and SKW flying is up 15% year-over-year. I think the shocker was that XJT's 135/145 fleet for UAX is down 28% and that is despite United hiring 23 XJT pilots into their June new hire class through the CPP. I can see why DL and AA are both pulling the plug on XJT with corporate's blessing. At that rate of collapse in flying, XJT's cancellation of the UAX flying will be the year after next at the latest.
06-10-2018, 10:23 AM
#25
Not at work
Joined APC: Oct 2014
Position: 737 ca
Posts: 293
Originally Posted by calmwinds
Is UAL over on 76-seat aircraft or 70-seat aircraft? How are RAH’s and SKW’s owned aircraft factored in, inside or outside the count?
06-10-2018, 10:38 AM
#26
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 2,145
Originally Posted by blockplus
There are 104 70 seat aircraft on cpa's. The 76 seat count is 153.
06-10-2018, 02:05 PM
#27
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,152
Originally Posted by calmwinds
257 aircraft versus the agreed maximum 255 aircraft with a 70/76 configuration. Means that the 104 70 seaters needs to be dropped to 102. I would not think it would be a problem to sit 2 700's. I know United has at least one 175 that is still just sitting because of scope.
Coincidence?! Think about it.
06-10-2018, 03:19 PM
#28
Perennial Reserve
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 11,499
Originally Posted by Cazadores
My understanding is United and Delta contract language restricts the use of larger aircraft at regional partners at all airlines, meaning if an airline desired to fly larger RJs for Alaska they would have to sever ties with UA and DL.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
06-10-2018, 04:29 PM
#29
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 2,145
Originally Posted by Excargodog
I don't believe that Horizon, Alaska's wholly owned, has any ties with UA or DL.
06-11-2018, 06:31 AM
#30
Prime Minister/Moderator
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,261
Originally Posted by calmwinds
He is saying if SKW starts flying larger jets for anyone that our contract with UA and DL allows UA or DL to terminate SKW’s flying for them. So, no direct connection between Alaska - just a cause and effect.
That's the way the DL and UA managers and unions intended for their scope to work.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
