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Old 09-11-2018, 11:18 PM
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How will the Expressjet TA vote influence the company to negotiate? I only skimmed through the Alpa page that outlined their TA. On top of all the increases, the big thing is the 40k sign on bonus and the 10k retention bonus.
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How will the Expressjet TA vote influence the company to negotiate? I only skimmed through the Alpa page that outlined their TA. On top of all the increases, the big thing is the 40k sign on bonus and the 10k retention bonus.
They pay XJT because they are ALPA. I recommend them. Aslo Inc. isn't in control anymore.

Now you will see growth at XJT, already starting to see it, and they will become shortly wayyyyy more attractive than OO.
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They pay XJT because they are ALPA. I recommend them. Aslo Inc. isn't in control anymore.

Now you will see growth at XJT, already starting to see it, and they will become shortly wayyyyy more attractive than OO.
ALPO propaganda...this is completely BS.
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Nothing will change. They treat them just like they do any other airline. And 20 shiny Jets will hardly make them attractive. Unless you have 20+ years you wont ever see yourself flying in the left seat of it.. had they got Endeavor/Republic rates. It would have helped us... but basically there TAputs them around our pay..
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How will the Expressjet TA vote influence the company to negotiate? I only skimmed through the Alpa page that outlined their TA. On top of all the increases, the big thing is the 40k sign on bonus and the 10k retention bonus.
By voting no on your last pay package your pilot group has ended its willingness to take paltry raises and work for whatever management tells you to take. They are now trying to see if Expressjet pilots will take a paltry raise instead.

Welcome to the other side of the whipsaw!
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Nothing will change. They treat them just like they do any other airline. And 20 shiny Jets will hardly make them attractive. Unless you have 20+ years you wont ever see yourself flying in the left seat of it.. had they got Endeavor/Republic rates. It would have helped us... but basically there TAputs them around our pay..
Do you ever reread what you post?
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ALPO propaganda...this is completely BS.
How? Look at their contract and then look at your er... agreement? It's pretty cut and dry. You guys are getting cucked.
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The red line is the XJT TA (including the EQO). The top line is Endeavor. The dashed blue line is the industry average.

I apologize for the bad resolution.

The XJT TA FO 70+ seat rate is the same as the 50 seat rate.

*The EQO adds $8.33/hr to captain rates and $10.42/hr to FO rates.

CA: $2000 quarterly divided by 240 hours
FO: $2500 quarterly divided by 240 hours
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Originally Posted by amcnd View Post
Nothing will change. They treat them just like they do any other airline. And 20 shiny Jets will hardly make them attractive. Unless you have 20+ years you wont ever see yourself flying in the left seat of it.. had they got Endeavor/Republic rates. It would have helped us... but basically there TAputs them around our pay..

Assuming you are correct, the work rules are still better at xjt.
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The red line is the XJT TA (including the EQO). The top line is Endeavor. The dashed blue line is the industry average.

I apologize for the bad resolution.

The XJT TA FO 70+ seat rate is the same as the 50 seat rate.

*The EQO adds $8.33/hr to captain rates and $10.42/hr to FO rates.

CA: $2000 quarterly divided by 240 hours
FO: $2500 quarterly divided by 240 hours
It adds those amounts if you fly 80 hours/month. What happens when you work more?
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