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Originally Posted by amcnd
(Post 2710057)
So pro standards, HIMS, and all of Sapa doesn’t exist??? Ive been both alpa and sapa. I don’t find your statement valid. Or quantifiable.. untill there is hard data put out. Its all APC rumors...
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Originally Posted by hawk21
(Post 2710072)
You can mail me the difference you make with the new pay rates if you wanna complain.
Company put their money in the FOs pocket. But if you can’t see our TA lags well behind Republic and Endeavor then you are obviously “special” and the big words are going to be explained by your counselor. Stop eating the glue.... |
Originally Posted by amcnd
(Post 2710057)
So pro standards, HIMS, and all of Sapa doesn’t exist??? Ive been both alpa and sapa. I don’t find your statement valid. Or quantifiable.. untill there is hard data put out. Its all APC rumors...
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Originally Posted by RegionalDriver
(Post 2710037)
the difference between the pilot protections at Skywest and other carriers is incomparable. At least at other airlines you'll have pilot advocates and representation on your side.
It’s one thing to be pro-ALPA, but it’s another to make false claims. |
Originally Posted by domino
(Post 2710848)
Pilots have NO representation when it comes to discipline and/or negotiations.
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Originally Posted by TheFly
(Post 2710857)
Absolutely false...see my previous post.
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Originally Posted by trip
(Post 2710894)
What representation do pilots have in a disciplinary situation?
Has tons of info.. Bark all you want about sapa/alpa real representation ect. SkyWest has 4800 pilots and if there was a rampant termination problem, then we wouldn’t have 4800 pilots and people would be bailing to Mesa/Gojet LCC’s ect... If it’s that important to you, honestly go to Republic. They are a great pilot group/airline. |
Originally Posted by TheFly
(Post 2710856)
I had an ASAP that went to the ERC a few years ago & SAPA went to bat for me. Our pro stans and other programs are very effective in what they do.
It’s one thing to be pro-ALPA, but it’s another to make false claims. Bottom line is we are the only carrier that terminates with an accepted ASAP. |
Originally Posted by Check Complete
(Post 2710924)
The system does work in some cases but definitely not all. There is no standard and when management pays for everything SAPA, it ensures individuals have no teeth. At carriers with ALPA when you get called to the chiefs office you always have a rep with you and a lawyer on conference call if needed.
Bottom line is we are the only carrier that terminates with an accepted ASAP. |
Originally Posted by domino
(Post 2710848)
They do. All under SAPA. And SAPA is all under management. Bought and paid for. Joke. Pilots have NO representation when it comes to discipline and/or negotiations.
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