Alpa drive?
01-30-2019, 09:41 AM
#101
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Talking with friends that have left SKW and have gone to ALPA carriers and SWAPA (SouthWest), all of them have mentioned they are very happy to have their union representation. The terminations alone would be worth it.
The new parking brake fiasco, which we can do nothing about, is going to be another cut in our pay. The company is already tracking individual Captains, and the CP's are discussing it with Captains when they have the opportunity. I had my chat a few days ago when I called in on something unrelated and was told my performance was pretty good but they want it to be zero. We do not have an enforceable contract, the company can do basically anything they want.
My friend at SouthWest said it's virtually impossible to get fired there unless you show up multiple times drunk. A SKW pilot was suspected of drinking before duty, the charges were eventually dropped by law enforcement but he was still terminated.
I'd vote yes the first chance I get.
The new parking brake fiasco, which we can do nothing about, is going to be another cut in our pay. The company is already tracking individual Captains, and the CP's are discussing it with Captains when they have the opportunity. I had my chat a few days ago when I called in on something unrelated and was told my performance was pretty good but they want it to be zero. We do not have an enforceable contract, the company can do basically anything they want.
My friend at SouthWest said it's virtually impossible to get fired there unless you show up multiple times drunk. A SKW pilot was suspected of drinking before duty, the charges were eventually dropped by law enforcement but he was still terminated.
I'd vote yes the first chance I get.
01-30-2019, 09:46 AM
#102
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Originally Posted by Check Complete
Talking with friends
Don't lie, you don't have friends.
01-30-2019, 10:52 AM
#103
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Originally Posted by TheFly
Both suck. ALPA can’t truly represent a subcontracting entity fairly.
A good union is no panacea for a bad company, but I’m happy with what I’m paying for for the most part. The RLA really neuters what we as a group can collectively do to fight a truly scummy company, but a good union paired with a good company helps everyone involved.
01-30-2019, 11:54 AM
#104
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Originally Posted by Skyhawk121
Don't lie, you don't have friends.
I've heard a super hot shower and you won't feel as dirty afterwards?
Just try and remember "No means No".....
01-30-2019, 12:06 PM
#105
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Originally Posted by Check Complete
Talking with friends that have left SKW and have gone to ALPA carriers and SWAPA (SouthWest), all of them have mentioned they are very happy to have their union representation. The terminations alone would be worth it.
The new parking brake fiasco, which we can do nothing about, is going to be another cut in our pay. The company is already tracking individual Captains, and the CP's are discussing it with Captains when they have the opportunity. I had my chat a few days ago when I called in on something unrelated and was told my performance was pretty good but they want it to be zero. We do not have an enforceable contract, the company can do basically anything they want.
My friend at SouthWest said it's virtually impossible to get fired there unless you show up multiple times drunk. A SKW pilot was suspected of drinking before duty, the charges were eventually dropped by law enforcement but he was still terminated.
I'd vote yes the first chance I get.
The new parking brake fiasco, which we can do nothing about, is going to be another cut in our pay. The company is already tracking individual Captains, and the CP's are discussing it with Captains when they have the opportunity. I had my chat a few days ago when I called in on something unrelated and was told my performance was pretty good but they want it to be zero. We do not have an enforceable contract, the company can do basically anything they want.
My friend at SouthWest said it's virtually impossible to get fired there unless you show up multiple times drunk. A SKW pilot was suspected of drinking before duty, the charges were eventually dropped by law enforcement but he was still terminated.
I'd vote yes the first chance I get.
01-30-2019, 12:22 PM
#106
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GG will tell you your latency whether or not you want to hear it. I love how he sent out the latency numbers for newly upgraded RSV CA's and suggested we call them
Such a stupid and unreasonable thing from a typically smart and reasonable guy.
Such a stupid and unreasonable thing from a typically smart and reasonable guy.
01-30-2019, 12:38 PM
#107
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Originally Posted by savedbythevnav
GG will tell you your latency whether or not you want to hear it. I love how he sent out the latency numbers for newly upgraded RSV CA's and suggested we call them
Such a stupid and unreasonable thing from a typically smart and reasonable guy.
Such a stupid and unreasonable thing from a typically smart and reasonable guy.
And if we had a real enforceable contract with mutually agreed to and defined block out protocols , this wouldn’t be an issue in the first place.
01-30-2019, 01:38 PM
#108
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Originally Posted by TheFly
I hope that ALPA doesn’t come to SlyWest. There’s no regional that has shown financial, QOL or any real meaningful gains as a result. Take Mesa or even Great Lakes (rip) for example. The two most poorly compensated and managed airlines in this dispensation had ALPA. How were their pilot groups represented? Terribly!
I don’t believe that Great Lakes was ever ALPA. And do you honestly believe things would be better at Mesa if they didn’t ha e a union considering their ceo?
01-30-2019, 01:43 PM
#109
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Originally Posted by Check Complete
The new parking brake fiasco, which we can do nothing about, is going to be another cut in our pay. The company is already tracking individual Captains, and the CP's are discussing it with Captains when they have the opportunity. I had my chat a few days ago when I called in on something unrelated and was told my performance was pretty good but they want it to be zero. We do not have an enforceable contract, the company can do basically anything they want.
Originally Posted by savedbythevnav
GG will tell you your latency whether or not you want to hear it. I love how he sent out the latency numbers for newly upgraded RSV CA's and suggested we call them
Such a stupid and unreasonable thing from a typically smart and reasonable guy.
Such a stupid and unreasonable thing from a typically smart and reasonable guy.
What’s this about parking brake and latency?
01-30-2019, 01:58 PM
#110
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Originally Posted by Check Complete
So it goes back to would you rather face this with a real lawyer representing your interests or a SAPA rep on the phone that has been instructed to remain quiet?
And if we had a real enforceable contract with mutually agreed to and defined block out protocols , this wouldn’t be an issue in the first place.
And if we had a real enforceable contract with mutually agreed to and defined block out protocols , this wouldn’t be an issue in the first place.
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