Alpa drive?
03-24-2019, 11:09 AM
#181
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Honestly I’ve been alpa. And didn’t mind it. Other then the long.... long... negotiation process... and useless banter... the problem is the only place i hear about a alpa drive is on this forum!!! Seriously. You ask anyone online and they respond. “Never heard of it”..
03-24-2019, 11:41 AM
#182
Porco Rosso
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Originally Posted by amcnd
Ya. Trust me. They don’t spend money keeping alpa off property.
03-24-2019, 12:12 PM
#183
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Originally Posted by Meow1215
Of course SAPA doesn’t say anything about ALPA, that would be counter productive.
But OO paying for their own in house union is an effort to prevent an external union. They don’t do because for your benefit.
And yes - everytime you reply you bump the thread up. I understand you don’t want to, but want to reply and now have a choice to make - Godspeed in your decision.
But OO paying for their own in house union is an effort to prevent an external union. They don’t do because for your benefit.
And yes - everytime you reply you bump the thread up. I understand you don’t want to, but want to reply and now have a choice to make - Godspeed in your decision.
Have you ever served as a rep for your in house representation?
03-24-2019, 12:22 PM
#184
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Originally Posted by mercys ghost
Smart business is in the eye of the beholder however. Why do you just advocate for pilot unions, and not for union representation for other work groups? Granted I understand you are a pilot, and making a case for pilots, but why stop there? And in all honesty, why are you so focused on SkyWest pilots? Do you really want what is best for them? Are you mad that you feel SkyWest pilots have piggy-backed off and had benefits granted to them without a union and feel they need to pay their dues?
When one side has people looking out for their best interest, the other side should have the same, if only to make it more of an even playing field. Yes, that’s absolutely smart business.
Like you said, I’m a pilot. Skywest pilots are the largest non-union group. Them being part of ALPA would strengthen the pilot community. So you can say that it is selfish if you want. I feel there is a lot of talent in their large pilot group that would be useful in advancing safety and security. This has been my biggest reason for pilots to join ALPA, the contract and representation secondary. I’ve been preaching this for years. So like I said, call it selfishness on my part. But I truly believe Skywest pilots would get more out of ALPA if they joined than I would individually.
As for other work groups, I have no problem if they unionize, more power to them. If they are taking about organizing, I’ll be right there supporting them as well. But this forum is a pilot forum.
So what’s your angle? Are you a pilot? A Skywest pilot? A Skywest employee? What is your agenda? What motivates you so much so as to take the position that Skywest pilots don’t deserve their own representation at all levels of their profession? What do you get out of them remaining non-union?
03-24-2019, 12:54 PM
#185
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Alpa drive?
Originally Posted by amcnd
Ya. Trust me. They don’t spend money keeping alpa off property. Doubtful that they have even put more then 10 seconds thought on alpa the past 2 years...
(Dang it. I bumped this topic up again).
(Dang it. I bumped this topic up again).
If you look at Skywest Inc’s 10k, unionizing is one risk factors they list out. So that’s something. But it should make you wonder why management sees that as a risk factor to them.
And don’t worry about bumping this thread because I’ll be doing that at least once a week when the ALPA fast read comes out.
03-24-2019, 01:25 PM
#186
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Originally Posted by Nevjets
If you look at Skywest Inc’s 10k, unionizing is one risk factors they list out. So that’s something. But it should make you wonder why management sees that as a risk factor to them.
And don’t worry about bumping this thread because I’ll be doing that at least once a week when the ALPA fast read comes out.
And don’t worry about bumping this thread because I’ll be doing that at least once a week when the ALPA fast read comes out.
Employee groups. . So point to me exact verbiage in the next 10K that list SkyWest pilot and Alpa as a risk factor... other then a “distraction” as listed in the 10K
Any smart person know increase labor adds cost. From a Unions doing or non union.. of course thats a risk factor...
If anyone is familiar with 10k fillings or earnings calls. You would know about the “forward looking statements” clause and listing out “risks” as to not be liable to investors...
03-24-2019, 02:02 PM
#187
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Originally Posted by mercys ghost
Have you ever served as a rep for your in house representation?
03-24-2019, 02:09 PM
#188
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Originally Posted by Nevjets
When one side has people looking out for their best interest, the other side should have the same, if only to make it more of an even playing field. Yes, that’s absolutely smart business.
Like you said, I’m a pilot. Skywest pilots are the largest non-union group. Them being part of ALPA would strengthen the pilot community. So you can say that it is selfish if you want. I feel there is a lot of talent in their large pilot group that would be useful in advancing safety and security. This has been my biggest reason for pilots to join ALPA, the contract and representation secondary. I’ve been preaching this for years. So like I said, call it selfishness on my part. But I truly believe Skywest pilots would get more out of ALPA if they joined than I would individually.
As for other work groups, I have no problem if they unionize, more power to them. If they are taking about organizing, I’ll be right there supporting them as well. But this forum is a pilot forum.
So what’s your angle? Are you a pilot? A Skywest pilot? A Skywest employee? What is your agenda? What motivates you so much so as to take the position that Skywest pilots don’t deserve their own representation at all levels of their profession? What do you get out of them remaining non-union?
Like you said, I’m a pilot. Skywest pilots are the largest non-union group. Them being part of ALPA would strengthen the pilot community. So you can say that it is selfish if you want. I feel there is a lot of talent in their large pilot group that would be useful in advancing safety and security. This has been my biggest reason for pilots to join ALPA, the contract and representation secondary. I’ve been preaching this for years. So like I said, call it selfishness on my part. But I truly believe Skywest pilots would get more out of ALPA if they joined than I would individually.
As for other work groups, I have no problem if they unionize, more power to them. If they are taking about organizing, I’ll be right there supporting them as well. But this forum is a pilot forum.
So what’s your angle? Are you a pilot? A Skywest pilot? A Skywest employee? What is your agenda? What motivates you so much so as to take the position that Skywest pilots don’t deserve their own representation at all levels of their profession? What do you get out of them remaining non-union?
Nev, look at my username.
03-24-2019, 02:24 PM
#189
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Originally Posted by Meow1215
Yep, I’m not currently a rep. But I’m still active on a few committees.
So are the reps compensated from the company for their time and work with this group?
03-24-2019, 02:32 PM
#190
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Originally Posted by mercys ghost
So are the reps compensated from the company for their time and work with this group?
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