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#211
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Last time there was an active campaign and vote, Skywest management was actively undermining it, to the point of being put under an injunction by a federal judge. All new hires get the kool aid speech during indoctrination and that propaganda continues. So let’s not pretend like Skywest management is hands off when it comes to their pilots line of thinking about unionizing.
#213
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I think you would fit in better at maybe Game Stop or Best Buy?
Good Luck!
#214
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Position: B757 seat 41B
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No, I don’t know. Or at least I don’t remember you ever telling me. So what is your reason for wanting Skywest pilots to remain non-union? What is it you get out of that?
Last time there was an active campaign and vote, Skywest management was actively undermining it, to the point of being put under an injunction by a federal judge. All new hires get the kool aid speech during indoctrination and that propaganda continues. So let’s not pretend like Skywest management is hands off when it comes to their pilots line of thinking about unionizing.
Last time there was an active campaign and vote, Skywest management was actively undermining it, to the point of being put under an injunction by a federal judge. All new hires get the kool aid speech during indoctrination and that propaganda continues. So let’s not pretend like Skywest management is hands off when it comes to their pilots line of thinking about unionizing.
So, in other words, you are saying the SkyWest pilots are a bunch of spineless, scared individuals chugging management kool aid? Is that why you feel a union needs to come to the rescue?
#216
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I've been around since the first Teamsters vote. Management definitely singles out union promoters and yes they have colluded with union votes.
The mailing list for a union vote was filled with numerous mistakes as provided by the company. Years ago my vote was sent to my parents address.
"Talk to your co-workers about remaining Union Free. Let them know that the company is non-union and wants to remain non-union."
It makes perfect sense that the company doesn't want a union. Which is why it makes perfect sense for the employee group to have a union. We are (I think) the 5th largest pilot group in the country and the only one to not have real representation.
Can anyone really say SW is the only place doing it right and all the others are wrong?
The mailing list for a union vote was filled with numerous mistakes as provided by the company. Years ago my vote was sent to my parents address.
"Talk to your co-workers about remaining Union Free. Let them know that the company is non-union and wants to remain non-union."
It makes perfect sense that the company doesn't want a union. Which is why it makes perfect sense for the employee group to have a union. We are (I think) the 5th largest pilot group in the country and the only one to not have real representation.
Can anyone really say SW is the only place doing it right and all the others are wrong?
#217
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Posts: 149
I've been around since the first Teamsters vote. Management definitely singles out union promoters and yes they have colluded with union votes.
The mailing list for a union vote was filled with numerous mistakes as provided by the company. Years ago my vote was sent to my parents address.
"Talk to your co-workers about remaining Union Free. Let them know that the company is non-union and wants to remain non-union."
It makes perfect sense that the company doesn't want a union. Which is why it makes perfect sense for the employee group to have a union. We are (I think) the 5th largest pilot group in the country and the only one to not have real representation.
Can anyone really say SW is the only place doing it right and all the others are wrong?
The mailing list for a union vote was filled with numerous mistakes as provided by the company. Years ago my vote was sent to my parents address.
"Talk to your co-workers about remaining Union Free. Let them know that the company is non-union and wants to remain non-union."
It makes perfect sense that the company doesn't want a union. Which is why it makes perfect sense for the employee group to have a union. We are (I think) the 5th largest pilot group in the country and the only one to not have real representation.
Can anyone really say SW is the only place doing it right and all the others are wrong?
Channeling my inner Bill Clinton..."That depends on what your definition of wrong, is". As far as the regional airline sector is concerned, they obviously have been doing something right. Granted it is impossible to know if the success of the airline has anything to do with not having any work groups unionized. However, it is the elephant in the room that cannot be ignored, and has to be considered.
Lets say tomorrow you guys voted in a union. In your own opinion, and I understand it is an opinion, do you think it would be business as usual from that point on?
#218
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I think there would be at least 2 years or more of contention and bitterness. But I think the gains would be worth it and I'm willing to have some pain for long term gain.
But of course, I don't speak for all?
But of course, I don't speak for all?
#219
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Yea, I would agree on the contention and bitterness. I think however it would stretch out for a long long time. Because you would have both sides trying to show each other who has the upper hand. Kind of a "I will show you who is boss" tug of war. Hard to say....
#220
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The only provision is that the company is going to have to have another contract in the next few years to lure fresh talent and that will force their hand to agree to a new and competitive contract. If there were to be a down turn economy for years, that would drag things out. If that were the case and we had a union the present contract and policies would be the de-facto agreement and forces the company to hold to the rules.
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