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Old 03-26-2019, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Meow1215 View Post
Do tell, that is allot of claims to back up.

What do you want to know?
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Old 03-26-2019, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mercys ghost View Post
What do you want to know?
How about access to 25% of that hard data your talking about?
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Old 03-27-2019, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Meow1215 View Post
How about access to 25% of that hard data your talking about?

Are you that far out of the loop on the regional industry? SkyWest is miles ahead of any regional competitor. If you need me to explain that hard data to you, then I would recommend spending less time posting here, and more time doing research.
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Old 03-27-2019, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by mercys ghost View Post
Are you that far out of the loop on the regional industry? SkyWest is miles ahead of any regional competitor. If you need me to explain that hard data to you, then I would recommend spending less time posting here, and more time doing research.
Again you assuming that their success is due to being non union, and not just having a brilliant management group. The relationship between union and management doesn't habit l have to be adversarial. Herb Kelleher put up the funds to get southwest's union started.
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Old 03-27-2019, 05:16 AM
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Again you assuming that their success is due to being non union, and not just having a brilliant management group. The relationship between union and management doesn't habit l have to be adversarial. Herb Kelleher put up the funds to get southwest's union started.

As I stated before, nobody knows if the success the airline has is because it does not have a union. However, fact shows they are successful without one. That is my point.
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Old 03-27-2019, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by mercys ghost View Post
As I stated before, nobody knows if the success the airline has is because it does not have a union. However, fact shows they are successful without one. That is my point.
Well it would be silly to assume that the place would just spiral downhill with a union on property.
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Old 03-27-2019, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mercys ghost View Post
As I stated before, nobody knows if the success the airline has is because it does not have a union. However, fact shows they are successful without one. That is my point.

Yes, there is one successful airline without a union, Skywest. And there is at least that many successful airlines that have unionized pilots.

We get it, you are simply a stockholder. We get that your interests in Skywest probably differ than Skywest pilots, especially when it comes to unionizing. Nothing wrong with that but it goes to the heart of one of my points, that each side should have its best interests at heart. And an NMB recognized bargaining agent is the best way to have the pilots interest at heart.
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Old 03-27-2019, 03:09 PM
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Old 03-27-2019, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by word302 View Post
Well it would be silly to assume that the place would just spiral downhill with a union on property.



Silly to you maybe....but, as of right now nobody can say it would or would not.
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Old 03-27-2019, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mercys ghost View Post
Silly to you maybe....but, as of right now nobody can say it would or would not.
I'm saying it would not. Your claim is completely ludicrous and unfounded.
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