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Old 03-24-2019, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Meow1215 View Post
Nope

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So explain how this works exactly....reps work for free? Who selects the reps? The company?
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Old 03-24-2019, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mercys ghost View Post
So explain how this works exactly....reps work for free? Who selects the reps? The company?
Reps are elected on LEC level (local base) by seat (CA and FO) by the eligible voting members in that base (basically non-probationary pilots). They are volunteers, they will receive flight loss pay for obligations that will remove flying. Additionally, they are eligible for per diem, hotel, and positive space travel to and from approved MEC events.
The only person in a MEC getting paid to be on ALPA is the Chairmen because it’s a full time job and the pay for that is monthly guarantee for the year. It’s not exactly a money maker. If you want to be an ALPA rep for the money you will have allot of regrets.
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Old 03-24-2019, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mercys ghost View Post
Nev, look at my username.

Yeah, and look at mine. You didn’t answer the question.
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Old 03-24-2019, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mercys ghost View Post
So explain how this works exactly....reps work for free? Who selects the reps? The company?

Members in good standing (dues paying members) are eligible to vote for their local council representatives. These reps are volunteers. They don’t make anymore than they would flying the line. They are eligible for flight pay loss in order to attend MEC meetings. The way this works is that the MEC notifies the company of people needing off of a trip. The trip is paid for by union dues. Same goes for any trip removed from any ALPA volunteer. Per diem or food along with hotels are paid for by ALPA. If the pilot contract also has provisions negotiated for positive space travel (not all contracts have this), then that is provided by the company. Any local council meetings, representation meetings, committee meetings, everything else is purely voluntary use of their time/resources.

There is no money paid by the company for any union business unless it was negotiated for into the contract. For example, some expenses for merger related meetings can and usually are negotiated for in a transition agreement. But those expenses wouldn’t exist if the company hadn’t made the business decision to merge, hence why it’s negotiated that the company pays for it.
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Old 03-24-2019, 04:00 PM
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Nothing in the 10K filling list “SkyWest pilot joining alpa” as a risk factor. Its a generic statement about labor cost. And more related to ExpressJet and all

Employee groups. . So point to me exact verbiage in the next 10K that list SkyWest pilot and Alpa as a risk factor... other then a “distraction” as listed in the 10K



Any smart person know increase labor adds cost. From a Unions doing or non union.. of course thats a risk factor...



If anyone is familiar with 10k fillings or earnings calls. You would know about the “forward looking statements” clause and listing out “risks” as to not be liable to investors...

My point is that it’s not like what you make it seem, that they don’t give it a thought or spend money. Of course they do, it’s in their risk factors! They wouldn’t be smart business people if they didn’t. Like I said, it’s something. That statement was meant to convey that it may not be something they currently lose sleep over but that it’s definitely enough of an issue to list it as a risk factor, regardless of whether it’s generic or not.

I’m sure if a card drive is ever successful, they’ll be spending a lot more thoughts and money, like they did last time.
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Old 03-24-2019, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevjets View Post
Yeah, and look at mine. You didn’t answer the question.

You already know the answers to those questions....Hopefully I don't have to spell this out for you.
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Old 03-24-2019, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevjets View Post
Members in good standing (dues paying members) are eligible to vote for their local council representatives. These reps are volunteers. They don’t make anymore than they would flying the line. They are eligible for flight pay loss in order to attend MEC meetings. The way this works is that the MEC notifies the company of people needing off of a trip. The trip is paid for by union dues. Same goes for any trip removed from any ALPA volunteer. Per diem or food along with hotels are paid for by ALPA. If the pilot contract also has provisions negotiated for positive space travel (not all contracts have this), then that is provided by the company. Any local council meetings, representation meetings, committee meetings, everything else is purely voluntary use of their time/resources.

There is no money paid by the company for any union business unless it was negotiated for into the contract. For example, some expenses for merger related meetings can and usually are negotiated for in a transition agreement. But those expenses wouldn’t exist if the company hadn’t made the business decision to merge, hence why it’s negotiated that the company pays for it.



We were talking about the SkyWest reps, not ALPAs.
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Old 03-24-2019, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by amcnd View Post
The company pays for sapa, sapa doesn’t spend time thwarting off ALPA. And CC, MT and TT. don’t spend there days trying to block ALPA.. (dangit. Bumpeoit again!! Not doing that again)
2 weeks ago with CC the conversation about ALPA came up and that we don't need them.

All the more reason we do!
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Old 03-24-2019, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Complete View Post
2 weeks ago with CC the conversation about ALPA came up and that we don't need them.

All the more reason we do!

I am honestly curious...why are you so hardcore gung-ho for a union. What exactly is your management doing that bothers you so much?
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Old 03-24-2019, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mercys ghost View Post
Have you ever served as a rep for your in house representation?
Yes I have, and I was reminded more than once (as an LCA) that the company's interests are to be in the fore front and my actions are to be observed.

Which is why I can say first hand that outside organized representation is necessary.
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