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Old 11-21-2018, 05:38 AM
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Default 200/700 Jumpseat W&B issues?

Question for you 200/700 drivers. I am on the 200 myself at ZW and wile I know it can be tight to get a jump seater on due to forward CG limits sometimes, we have over the years made many modifications to our fleet to move the BEW CG aft and that has made taking a jump seater a virtual nonissue for us.

My normal commute is 100% mainline so I have no experience with jumpsestimg on 200/700s outside of my own. The one time I tried to take a Piedmont 145 the CA said they never can make it work and I couldn’t get on. Didn’t even try. But I digress...

I am trying to get to my in-laws to be with my family on turkey day and have a 200 and 700 on Skywest as my 2 options. Both are full as one would expect so trying to see if Skywest has CG issues with either fleet types. I have mainline options to an airport further away but trying to get much closer.

Appreciate the insight. Happy Thanksgiving.
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Ballast. Others have done it for me. I have done it for others. Good luck to you.
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Lots of ballast on the 200. It can be an issue with an alternate because you end up overweight for landing. The solution is to reduce the fuel a little bit, but that doesn’t always work.

The 700 rarely has an issue. Sometimes with an empty 700, you actually have to add forward ballast.
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Old 11-21-2018, 07:09 AM
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We can make it work most of the time on the 200, Ive never actually had to tell someone no, came close once but made it work barely. Like they said ballast. We will work hard to make it work. The 700 is a non issue.
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"Virtually"?
I've only tried to take a ZW jumpseat once and it "didn't work out".
What does the jumpseat have to do with the inlaws anyway?
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"Virtually"?
I've only tried to take a ZW jumpseat once and it "didn't work out".
What does the jumpseat have to do with the inlaws anyway?
The W&B didn’t work out? Must’ve been a new captain. Most of the guys I fly with have never had to leave a JS behind. I haven’t had to in a year.
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on the -200 the issue only usually comes up if the flight has an alternate and or is tankering. Its usually a landing weight issue and that extra 1000-2000 lbs of gas limits how much ballast we can carry. the 700 should be a non issue unless you are going out of somewhere like ASE.
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on the -200 the issue only usually comes up if the flight has an alternate and or is tankering. Its usually a landing weight issue and that extra 1000-2000 lbs of gas limits how much ballast we can carry. the 700 should be a non issue unless you are going out of somewhere like ASE.
Contaminated runway or anti ice can take a huge bite out of payload on the deuce

If payload is limited you can't take the ballast needed for the JS.
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I've been denied a couple of times for this on skywest. Show up early and hopefully their load control can factor you in?...
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Thanks for everyone’s advice and info. Crew working it was great, ran the numbers early and said they could take me up front if needed (200).

A rev pax no showed and ended up getting a seat in the back anyway.

Thanks again to all and Happy Thanksgiving.
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