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Old 07-09-2021, 06:03 PM
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On the profile for SkyWest it says new hires to expect upgrade in 1.5 years. I’m 3 years in and I’m still years away from upgrade selecting “Any” for my bid. Where did they get 1.5 years from?
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Old 07-09-2021, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by shrsailplanes View Post
On the profile for SkyWest it says new hires to expect upgrade in 1.5 years. I’m 3 years in and I’m still years away from upgrade selecting “Any” for my bid. Where did they get 1.5 years from?
Idk man have you heard of this thing called COVID where everyone almost lost their jobs?

You aware that upgrade time was in reference to CRJ, not ERJ? You have previous post’s where you claim you want to stay on the ERJ, and basically don’t believe in yourself to take the faster upgrade which would be the CRJ.

Well guess what? ERJ was 3.5-4 years precovid and everyone knew that, because they explain that to you during the interview, training, IOE, and on the line.

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Old 07-09-2021, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by KirillTheThrill View Post
Idk man have you heard of this thing called COVID where everyone almost lost their jobs?

You aware that upgrade time was in reference to CRJ, not ERJ? You have previous post’s where you claim you want to stay on the ERJ, and basically don’t believe in yourself to take the faster upgrade which would be the CRJ.

Well guess what? ERJ was 3.5-4 year precovid and everyone knew that.
it doesn’t specify CRJ in the profile. Where did you see that?
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Originally Posted by shrsailplanes View Post
it doesn’t specify CRJ in the profile. Where did you see that?
Don’t play stupid.
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Old 07-09-2021, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by KirillTheThrill View Post
Don’t play stupid.
the profile says it’s been updated recently. So, they definitely missed something.
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With the amount of attrition, and aircraft coming. I would say yes it will be this fall. 1.5 years if you have the flight time to upgrade…
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Old 07-09-2021, 07:22 PM
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They’re obviously gearing up for something on the ERJ. Everyone is being sent to CQ months prior to their last CQ month. As always, no reason given, just shut up and be a good boy.
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Old 07-09-2021, 07:59 PM
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Most of the very junior captains on the seniority list have mid 3000 seniority numbers. About 1700 from the bottom of the 5200 on the seniority list. Attrition will probably really accelerate with everyone hiring now. Last month was near 100, but 15 of those were new hires in training. About 60 captains.

Attrition combined with growth is going to require a lot of new captains. Lots of new aircraft coming, but it sounds like a lot of the United 200s will be going away. I wonder if it will be a net loss of aircraft by 2023-24.

One thing for those on the outside looking in to understand is that most FOs don't take the first available upgrade. Sure a few do, but the vast majority wait until they would have some seniority in the left seat. There's still a 1000+ FOs senior to the junior CA that can bid over to the left seat when openings occur.

Attrition plus growth might easily require over 1000-1200 new captains in the next 18 months. That would still leave nearly 1500 current FOs waiting to upgrade.

This last round of upgrades was 2.7 years for the junior guy (CRJ). Of course there was 15 months of Covid delay in there. I suppose the good news is ERJ CA is down to around four years at this point.

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Old 07-09-2021, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by KirillTheThrill View Post
Idk man have you heard of this thing called COVID where everyone almost lost their jobs?

You aware that upgrade time was in reference to CRJ, not ERJ? You have previous post’s where you claim you want to stay on the ERJ, and basically don’t believe in yourself to take the faster upgrade which would be the CRJ.

Well guess what? ERJ was 3.5-4 years precovid and everyone knew that, because they explain that to you during the interview, training, IOE, and on the line.
The guy just asked a question. Relax lol. And everyone didn't almost lose their jobs. Stop being dramatic.
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Old 07-09-2021, 08:22 PM
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The last upgrade bid that just came through people in my initial class and people 100 junior to me in seniority got upgrade awarded. I am 2 years 10 months CRJ.
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