Training issues at SKW
01-12-2019, 06:37 AM
#51
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 2,480
Originally Posted by Smoothlanding
For your 2nd time, I would try Mesa, they get a lot of guys through that failed at different airlines. As long as your progressing Mesa will work with you.
01-12-2019, 10:05 AM
#52
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 12
Originally Posted by Aviator2019
To be clear, at SKW this is not a choice. It was all bid for and if you wanted a certain time frame you took whoever was on that timeframe.
01-12-2019, 10:49 AM
#53
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Joined APC: Sep 2018
Position: E135 FO
Posts: 295
I'm no expert, and so far I've only flown part 135, piston and now jet.
I understand the contrast can be huge coming from a CFI environment or even coming from any GA job.
The truth is that even though the job itself is "easy" once you're comfortable with the aircraft and the operation, the transition can be pure hell. I still have nightmares about my initial at flightsafety lol.
Each person is different, and some people need to man up and grow a thicker skin, facts. Some people maybe had bad luck too, but that's life. If someone is studying for 7h a day and can't memorize systems, then try studying for 8h, it is what it is. If your sim partner is really bad, oh well.... You'll have to do your part and 50% of his haha, which is also how things work in real life sometimes.
I understand the contrast can be huge coming from a CFI environment or even coming from any GA job.
The truth is that even though the job itself is "easy" once you're comfortable with the aircraft and the operation, the transition can be pure hell. I still have nightmares about my initial at flightsafety lol.
Each person is different, and some people need to man up and grow a thicker skin, facts. Some people maybe had bad luck too, but that's life. If someone is studying for 7h a day and can't memorize systems, then try studying for 8h, it is what it is. If your sim partner is really bad, oh well.... You'll have to do your part and 50% of his haha, which is also how things work in real life sometimes.
01-12-2019, 10:57 AM
#54
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Posts: 104
Originally Posted by captive apple
This was in part why our pay rose mid agreement while classes were full. We now have people here who should never have made it through training.
01-12-2019, 04:49 PM
#56
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: Seat 0B
Posts: 2,300
Originally Posted by smc2020
Hard to believe they were paying something like $22/hour about 4 years ago.
01-12-2019, 06:10 PM
#57
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,211
Originally Posted by Erj135dude
The truth is that even though the job itself is "easy" once you're comfortable with the aircraft and the operation, the transition can be pure hell. I still have nightmares about my initial at flightsafety lol.
Originally Posted by Erj135dude
Each person is different, and some people need to man up and grow a thicker skin, facts. Some people maybe had bad luck too, but that's life. If someone is studying for 7h a day and can't memorize systems, then try studying for 8h, it is what it is. If your sim partner is really bad, oh well.... You'll have to do your part and 50% of his haha, which is also how things work in real life sometimes.
01-13-2019, 03:06 AM
#58
Porco Rosso
Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 2,522
Are folks actually fired for not getting through training? At my airline, folks who don't get through training are told that they won't get through and offered the ability to resign immediately. The pilot would still have to explain that to a future employer, but the airline won't have to say "we fired them" during a background check.
01-13-2019, 04:26 AM
#59
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Joined APC: Apr 2010
Posts: 803
Originally Posted by ninerdriver
Are folks actually fired for not getting through training? At my airline, folks who don't get through training are told that they won't get through and offered the ability to resign immediately. The pilot would still have to explain that to a future employer, but the airline won't have to say "we fired them" during a background check.
Note: this message will be sharply met with harsh words and denial from amcnd and Skyhawk121, their word is final, thanks.
01-13-2019, 06:56 AM
#60
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If you don’t make it through training there are a ton a senecio’s. Did you actually fail a “checking” event. PRIA.. did you use up your extra hrs and never made it to a checking event? Most people resign when they hit the max extra hours.. new Training manager is a nice guy... no black helicopters notamed north of F taxiway in SLC...
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