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Blackhawk 01-29-2019 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2752136)
The jumpseat is the same, but the W&B/CG configuration is different... very nose heavy, after the FAA changed the pax weights.

Yeah. Things like that may change. Seat configuration may change- I remember flying the 40 seat -200’s. Companies may have different limits, such as more restrictive flap speeds. That’s why I tell people to steer clear of things like limits and EPS. Just go over general systems on the airframe.

sofarup 01-29-2019 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by Blackhawk (Post 2751568)
I know they are taught to think that they see the son of Bob Hoover in the mirror each morning but that’s not quite the case.

Now that's just not true. We COME IN thinking we're the sons/daughters of Bob Hoover. :D

vessbot 01-29-2019 03:31 PM

If pre-studying systems can jeopardize someone's training, then there's something wrong with the airline's training department.

But yeah stay away from procedures, limitations, and memory items because they could be airline-specific.

(Also not a Skywest guy.)

amcnd 01-29-2019 04:11 PM

Everyone thinks they need to study “systems”. That may have been true 15-20 years ago. Not today.... Please study flows/callouts/profiles....

Not knowing what psi the boost pump turns on when the main ejector fails. Won’t salvage :45 lost in the sim because you can get missed approach call outs and actions down after the 10th attempt...

ninerdriver 01-29-2019 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2752405)
Everyone thinks they need to study “systems”. That may have been true 15-20 years ago. Not today.... Please study flows/callouts/profiles....

Not knowing what psi the boost pump turns on when the main ejector fails. Won’t salvage :45 lost in the sim because you can get missed approach call outs and actions down after the 10th attempt...

It's green, so it must be okay. It's amber, so something needs to change.

It sounds stupid, but this is how the CRJ works.

Amcnd: I'm actually agreeing with you on something. What is this world coming to?

Blackhawk 01-29-2019 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2752405)
Everyone thinks they need to study “systems”. That may have been true 15-20 years ago. Not today.... Please study flows/callouts/profiles....

Not knowing what psi the boost pump turns on when the main ejector fails. Won’t salvage :45 lost in the sim because you can get missed approach call outs and actions down after the 10th attempt...

Studying flows/callouts/profiles is tough to do unless you KNOW you have the specific airline information and are doing it EXACTLY the way they want. Otherwise, it is worse than a waste of time.
Knowing systems is always important, maybe not for the "make-believe world" of the sim, but for the real world where your life will depend on it. Do you need to know the specific psi when a boost bump turns on? Probably not. "It's green so it must be okay" is true. But that's limitations, not systems knowledge.
You do need to have an understanding of the systems and how they operate and interact. As an example, if you get a hydraulic high temp on a CRJ-200, what will this mean? Yeah, the QRH will tell you to shut down the engine, but it should not come as a surprise. Other emergencies may crop up that are not in a QRH, and at that point, it comes down to systems knowledge.
"I was always afraid of dying. Always. It was my fear that made me learn everything I could about my airplane and my emergency equipment and kept me flying respectful of my machine and always alert in the cockpit."
— General Chuck Yeager, ‘Yeager, An Autobiography.

amcnd 01-29-2019 07:48 PM

Anyone with 1/2 a brain could figure that out. “SkyWest” calouts and actions.... nust pointing out when you get the info, Or get with a friend that’s already flying. And study flows/callouts. Not how many HYD pumps we have. And when they turn on...

TheFly 01-29-2019 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by Blackhawk (Post 2751439)
I am going to disagree somewhat.
A good pilot should ALWAYS be learning.
As pointed out you will not get the specific SkyWest material beforehand.
Emergency memory items and limitations are fine, but understand that they may be slightly different in wording unless you have the specific SkyWest procedures.
Systems are systems. A SkyWest CRJ-200 is no different from an ExpressJet CRJ-200. Well, in some cases it was an ExpressJet CRJ-200 (couldn't resist). So if you Google some of the CRJ-200 systems such as hydraulics, engines, flight controls, pressurization, etc that would help.
Also, if you have a copy of "Everything Explained for the Professional Plot", study that. Understand alternate requirements, etc.

Yes, a good pilot is always learning. However, there’s nothing worse than studying the wrong thing or unnecessary things in initial training. Get your feet wet, learn what you need to learn then build from there.

SteakSauce 02-01-2019 01:47 PM

I thought they dumbed down ground school enough?? I heard you just show up go home tool on the computer for a couple hours and boom you're on your way to the sim?? Why do we even need to know the systems?? :D


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