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amcnd 02-01-2019 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by TooMuchAl (Post 2754232)
With the addition of 175s and contraction of the CRJ, what does that mean for a new hires? I was under the impression if you wanted to fly a lot and upgrade quickly, one should go east on the CRJ. Do any of you believe that will change?

Your only talking 9-900’s. And we still have new 900’s coming.. so you will fly a lot! Not to mention all the used 700’s that keep showing up on the opps specs...

TFAYD 02-01-2019 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by TooMuchAl (Post 2754232)
With the addition of 175s and contraction of the CRJ, what does that mean for a new hires? I was under the impression if you wanted to fly a lot and upgrade quickly, one should go east on the CRJ. Do any of you believe that will change?

Not sure there is that much of a contraction of CRJ flying. Some of the CRJ2 stuff may go away but watch for it being replaced by CRJ7 flying. Just research the AA scope clause to understand the dynamics there and why all CRJ7 are converted to 65 seats.

The bigger question is what happens with the 50 seat feed at UA. If they ever get their acto together at XJT and C5 I could see 50 seat flying to them.... but that is a big of.

trip 02-01-2019 11:18 AM

There's no new 50 seater on the horizon, nobody really knows what's going to happen there. CRJs won't be around forever, embraer still offers 145s but that's really unlikely.

Texxx 02-01-2019 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by hawk21 (Post 2754141)
That’s not going to happen.

Hahah. Never say never Jr.

Texxx 02-01-2019 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2754140)
700’s?? We are down to 19 700’s for UA... maybe you ment 175’s

Nope.

Stay tuned.

SteakSauce 02-01-2019 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by rnfnr (Post 2753951)
IMO 5 years sounds a tad too soon for the "majority" of the CRJs to
go away, as we're still awaiting deliveries of some (hopefully).
I always wondered how the 175 would fit into some of our CRJ bases...
as I begin to see more and more of them flowing through
IAH, MSP & DTW.

I couldn't agree more. The CRJ200 isn't going anywhere for awhile. They are all paid and we have cheap MX on the 200's. Not to mention the 175 isn't the end all be all. Lots of airports that the 200 goes into that the 175 can't fly into for various reasons, and the same airports make loads of money for DL and UA. As much as people want it to be gone my prediction it will be around another 10 years. :eek:

amcnd 02-01-2019 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by SteakSauce (Post 2754731)
I couldn't agree more. The CRJ200 isn't going anywhere for awhile. They are all paid and we have cheap MX on the 200's. Not to mention the 175 isn't the end all be all. Lots of airports that the 200 goes into that the 175 can't fly into for various reasons, and the same airports make loads of money for DL and UA. As much as people want it to be gone my prediction it will be around another 10 years. :eek:

I agree. If you look at the behind the sceens action. It would point to the CRJ being around. 100 NH in the CRJ alone a month, 9 simulators (up 3 from last year), these things would slow down if they were going to be a shrinking fleet...

hawk21 02-03-2019 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by Texxx (Post 2754573)
Nope.

Stay tuned.


Only if we're ramping up DMA flying. Otherwise United has made it pretty clear they want less 700s and more 175s.

spaaks 02-06-2019 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by Texxx (Post 2754138)
The best case for skyw is 25 700s for UAL. After that as the years roll on they slowly reduce the flying they do. Hence CC putting all his eggs in DAL basket.


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2754140)
700’s?? We are down to 19 700’s for UA... maybe you ment 175’s


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2754241)
Your only talking 9-900’s. And we still have new 900’s coming.. so you will fly a lot! Not to mention all the used 700’s that keep showing up on the opps specs...


Originally Posted by TFAYD (Post 2754278)
Not sure there is that much of a contraction of CRJ flying. Some of the CRJ2 stuff may go away but watch for it being replaced by CRJ7 flying. Just research the AA scope clause to understand the dynamics there and why all CRJ7 are converted to 65 seats.

The bigger question is what happens with the 50 seat feed at UA. If they ever get their acto together at XJT and C5 I could see 50 seat flying to them.... but that is a big of.


Originally Posted by trip (Post 2754398)
There's no new 50 seater on the horizon, nobody really knows what's going to happen there. CRJs won't be around forever, embraer still offers 145s but that's really unlikely.


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2754763)
I agree. If you look at the behind the sceens action. It would point to the CRJ being around. 100 NH in the CRJ alone a month, 9 simulators (up 3 from last year), these things would slow down if they were going to be a shrinking fleet...

The CR7 will probably become the new 50 seater for the next decade as well.... see United putting 50 seats in blowjet's 700's.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...s-crj5-455565/

https://thepointsguy.com/news/united-crj550/

trip 02-06-2019 02:39 PM

It's funny we were just talking about this and here it is, the 50 seat replacement. So it's a brand new type, not a re-furbished CRJ700. I am looking for the specs on it-weight, engines, thrust etc.

https://www.bombardier.com/en/media/...ardiercom.html

Chorus Aviation

Bombardier Launches New Innovative 50-Seater Aircraft
February 6, 2019 Montréal
Commercial Aircraft, Press Release


The CRJ550 is a new aircraft type based on the CRJ700 platform, within Bombardier’s successful CRJ family
This aircraft model is the first triple-class 50-seat aircraft in the world
Bombardier Commercial Aircraft is pleased to officially launch the new CRJ550 aircraft, the first triple-class 50-seat aircraft in the world designed to meet the expectations of today’s passengers. The CRJ550 is a new CRJ Series aircraft model, with a new type certificate based on the CRJ700. United Airlines is the launch customer of this new model.

“The new CRJ550 model is the only solution in North America that can replace the existing fleet of ageing 50-seaters, a market of over 700 aircraft, said Fred Cromer, President, Bombardier Commercial Aircraft. It offers improved passenger experience with ample on-board storage for carry-on bags and more passenger living space. This is one more example of how we are focusing on creating value for our customers and a very important endorsement from United in regards to the CRJ platform.”

The CRJ550 will feature a self-serve beverage and snack station and more overall legroom per seat than any other 50-seat aircraft flown by any U.S. carrier, in addition to all the benefits for which the CRJ Series aircraft are known.

With the CRJ550, the CRJ Series is the only family of regional aircraft that can offer 3-class cabin across all-market segments, while meeting the current operational requirements. One of the key benefits for the US operators will be to leverage the cockpit commonality from the CRJ200 to the CRJ900. The CRJ550 will also delight operators by delivering a 99.5 per cent proven dispatch reliability, the elimination of gate check bags, and providing connectivity.


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