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Old 02-15-2019, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by thaddiusMbuggs View Post
Might want to hold off on CP I would suggest...at least for the moment
Oh, hell no. Put in an app as soon as you are competitive. They have a waiting list. If you get a CJO they are generally good for six months. Two weeks ago everyone was predicting the demise of GoJet:

GoJet Death Sentence? Or more rumors?

Then they got a ten year contract from United.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...-least-crj550s

That’s life and times in the regionals.

So why not apply to Compass? By the time you would be going to class they may have new flying too, or at least a contract extension. You can always go elsewhere if something better comes along.

Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

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Old 02-16-2019, 04:16 AM
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Folks, I am prepping for application to SkyWest too; is there any way to determine if being based in SEA is a possibility or is it just a crap shoot?
currently 1 year 11 months to touch the base, 2 years 4 months to hold a line (FO). CA upgrade will be many years as when they closed SEA CRJ they kicked all those pilots to other bases and many have transfer bids back in
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Old 02-19-2019, 06:08 AM
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I currently have been on sight at CP for a year and 3 months and I will be able to upgrade in SEA via my seniority before I reach my 1000 hours of SIC. Like the guy said about GoJet, who knows what will happen the airline industry is constantly changing every second. This is a great company with great people to fly with it would be a shame for it to go on the way side.
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Old 03-17-2019, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by rnfnr View Post
Looks like the most junior lineholders there
are just a couple months short of a year on property.

Short call = 2 hr callout. Long call = 12 hr callout.
Short call AM shift is 5a-5p, while PM is 9a-9p. Our
reserve system isn't perfect, but whose is? If you live
in base it's actually not bad at all.

Not interested in holding out for the flow? Those always
sounded to me like a nice hand to have in the back pocket..
Is there anything stopping the company from not giving you the full 2 hour call-out since there’s no union protection and true contract? Or do they always keep their deals?
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Old 03-17-2019, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Steelship123 View Post
Is there anything stopping the company from not giving you the full 2 hour call-out since there’s no union protection and true contract? Or do they always keep their deals?
I have been asked if i can make it in x time. i have always said I need my full 2 hours and never had any issues. for the most part the company is pretty good about following the pilot policy manual (non binding contract). with that said it is not nearly as comprehensive as a CBA which leaves plenty of loopholes for the company to use.
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Old 03-17-2019, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying View Post
I have been asked if i can make it in x time. i have always said I need my full 2 hours and never had any issues. for the most part the company is pretty good about following the pilot policy manual (non binding contract). with that said it is not nearly as comprehensive as a CBA which leaves plenty of loopholes for the company to use.
In the 10 years I was at SkyWest I never once had them question me when I said I needed two hours to get to the airport. And I bid reserve A LOT
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Old 03-17-2019, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Steelship123 View Post
Is there anything stopping the company from not giving you the full 2 hour call-out since there’s no union protection and true contract? Or do they always keep their deals?
The only thing that will stop the company from giving you the full 2-hours, is you. They'll always ask you if you need the full 2-hours, and your answer will ALWAYS be "yes," whether or not you actually need
all of it.

There is a lot of grey in our policy manual, which is unfortunate, but I've never heard of anyone not being allowed their full callout.
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Old 03-17-2019, 05:36 PM
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I will counter this valid argument with a reality check: sometimes, when they ask you when you can get here, it’s because pax are sitting at a gate with a gate agent and crew trying to flex because a crewmember suddenly called out. They’re trying to figure out when to board. People’s schedules and connections are at stake. There are second- and third-order effects.

I just jumpseated yesterday with a United captain who told his folks he could get there in an hour, on reserve even though he had just come off a long trip. They boarded the plane a half hour late. The CA showed up right when he said (and the gate had called ahead to KCM/TSA to let them know he was expected, so expedited), and off we went.

I’m all about policy, but I’m also about team play. If I can get there in less that two hours, I’ll let them know. If not or I’m unsure, I’ll say I need two hours. It’s not all about you.
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Old 03-17-2019, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by baronbvp View Post
I will counter this valid argument with a reality check: sometimes, when they ask you when you can get here, it’s because pax are sitting at a gate with a gate agent and crew trying to flex because a crewmember suddenly called out. They’re trying to figure out when to board. People’s schedules and connections are at stake. There are second- and third-order effects.

I just jumpseated yesterday with a United captain who told his folks he could get there in an hour, on reserve even though he had just come off a long trip. They boarded the plane a half hour late. The CA showed up right when he said (and the gate had called ahead to KCM/TSA to let them know he was expected, so expedited), and off we went.

I’m all about policy, but I’m also about team play. If I can get there in less that two hours, I’ll let them know. If not or I’m unsure, I’ll say I need two hours. It’s not all about you.
I appreciate your attitude but no. We don’t tell crew support we need the two hours then dillydally around making people late for two hours. We tell CS we need our two hours and then get there as soon as we can and depart. There are way too many things that could go wrong on the commute that then put your butt on the line while probably on probation.
Always get your two hours of protection while getting those passengers out as soon as practicable.
We are playing their game. They know everyone says they need the two hours. They know why everyone says they need two hours. Yet they have never made attempts to amend the policy to allow for “honest estimates” while allowing the historical two hour protection.
That’s how we have always done it.
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Old 03-17-2019, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by baronbvp View Post
I will counter this valid argument with a reality check: sometimes, when they ask you when you can get here, it’s because pax are sitting at a gate with a gate agent and crew trying to flex because a crewmember suddenly called out. They’re trying to figure out when to board. People’s schedules and connections are at stake. There are second- and third-order effects.

I just jumpseated yesterday with a United captain who told his folks he could get there in an hour, on reserve even though he had just come off a long trip. They boarded the plane a half hour late. The CA showed up right when he said (and the gate had called ahead to KCM/TSA to let them know he was expected, so expedited), and off we went.

I’m all about policy, but I’m also about team play. If I can get there in less that two hours, I’ll let them know. If not or I’m unsure, I’ll say I need two hours. It’s not all about you.

This is a valid point. I have had a few times when I was at OO with this exact situation. I told them, with exception to any traffic I'm not aware of I can be there in one hour. If I hit a snag with traffic or something I'll call and update you. A time or two I did hit a snag. Called them up and gave them an update. Never, ever, ever, had an issue. My experience with SkyWest was usually good.
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