Special Tracking and PRIA
#11
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A new hire at a regional is 3-4 years away from being somewhat competitive at majors - that should be plenty of time. Just don't form a pattern and keep failing/needing more training.
The worst thing you can do is try to hide it. The conversation you DON'T want to have at a major interview is "so, you said you have no failures or unsats?" "no, sir" "any issues in training?" "not really, no..." "ok, so what is this R6 event you had as a new hire?" "well, uhm, no, I mean..." "ok, we'll call you, don't call us."
#12
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I'm not hiring for the majors so I really don't know. The general consensus is that recent training issues are a red flag, but a single event (or multiple with good interview answers) a long time ago aren't a big deal.
A new hire at a regional is 3-4 years away from being somewhat competitive at majors - that should be plenty of time. Just don't form a pattern and keep failing/needing more training.
The worst thing you can do is try to hide it. The conversation you DON'T want to have at a major interview is "so, you said you have no failures or unsats?" "no, sir" "any issues in training?" "not really, no..." "ok, so what is this R6 event you had as a new hire?" "well, uhm, no, I mean..." "ok, we'll call you, don't call us."
A new hire at a regional is 3-4 years away from being somewhat competitive at majors - that should be plenty of time. Just don't form a pattern and keep failing/needing more training.
The worst thing you can do is try to hide it. The conversation you DON'T want to have at a major interview is "so, you said you have no failures or unsats?" "no, sir" "any issues in training?" "not really, no..." "ok, so what is this R6 event you had as a new hire?" "well, uhm, no, I mean..." "ok, we'll call you, don't call us."
Got it. Thank you for the information!
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#13
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"I didn't feel comfortable doing the checkride at that point, I needed a few more pointers to nail V1 cuts, they gave me an extra session and I got it right, and I passed the extra recurrent training event no problems".
Shows good judgement.
vs.
"The company wanted to rush me and I failed my MV".
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In some cases, needing extra time might be a good selling point in an interview.
"I didn't feel comfortable doing the checkride at that point, I needed a few more pointers to nail V1 cuts, they gave me an extra session and I got it right, and I passed the extra recurrent training event no problems".
Shows good judgement.
vs.
"The company wanted to rush me and I failed my MV".
"I didn't feel comfortable doing the checkride at that point, I needed a few more pointers to nail V1 cuts, they gave me an extra session and I got it right, and I passed the extra recurrent training event no problems".
Shows good judgement.
vs.
"The company wanted to rush me and I failed my MV".
VERY good point. Thank you for that!
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#15
I recall that my OO PRIA printout listed every training event I did for the last five or seven years. So I assume a reviewer would note that my recurrent events were always one year (+/- one month) apart. I suspect they would note an early event, and it sounds like it may be coded differently.
But it doesn't really matter what PRIA says, you need to answer the questions on the application verbatim... read them carefully, answer them literally. In the old days it was just "have you ever failed a checkride", but recently the questions have gotten a lot more detailed.
Be honest, if they think you're not being honest, you're done. And it's not a court of law, they don't need "beyond reasonable doubt", they just need the slightest hint or suspicion that something's not quite right. If it's a grey area on the question, I would still tend to be honest so there's no misunderstanding.
All that said, the app/interview is not confessional... don't tell them anything (negative) which they clearly did not ask for.
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#20
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Common PRIA examples: IMV, IKV, ILOE, CQ KV/LOE (events such as IPV or CQMV are NOT events OO needs to specifically report to the FAA, but in can (in the case of the CQMV) enter you into ST)
That's how I've understood it at least. If anyone here has been in ST before and wants to chime in, that'll probably get you a better answer.
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