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Blueflyer973 03-03-2019 06:33 PM

Glider Time
 
I was doing some research on Skywest and saw on their website that they accept glider time as your total time as long as the applicant as 250 hours in a fixed wing. Do you think an applicant who is counting 20-30 hours of glider time towards their total time would still be competitive? Also, is this common for other airlines? Thanks for the input!

TiredSoul 03-03-2019 09:29 PM

Glider time is total time and can be counted towards issuance of a CPL and an ATP in accordance with Part 61.
So if a regional airline requires 1500TT and an ATP then it’s acceptable time.

The 250hr requirement is if you change category.
So let’s say you’re rotor wing and you hold a helo ATP you need at least 250hrs fixed wing for the issuance of a fixed wing ATP.
Conversely if you hold a fixed wing ATP and you want to cross over to rotor ATP you need at least 250 hrs helo time.

Since there is no such thing as a Glider ATP it’s kind of a mute point.

rickair7777 03-04-2019 05:10 AM

It's not really common, but OO has a strong glider subculture, so it certainly won't hurt you to have a few gilder hours as part of your 1500.

TiredSoul 03-04-2019 07:06 AM

I used a similar amount towards the issuance of my CPL.
Didn’t need it for the ATP as I had 3 gazillion hours of instruction given.

JayMahon 03-04-2019 07:17 AM

What about time in an ultralight? How do these kinds of hours gained from a sport pilot certificate translate into PPL, CPL and ATP requirements?

bradthepilot 03-04-2019 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by JayMahon (Post 2774418)
What about time in an ultralight? How do these kinds of hours gained from a sport pilot certificate translate into PPL, CPL and ATP requirements?

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TiredSoul 03-04-2019 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by JayMahon (Post 2774418)
What about time in an ultralight? How do these kinds of hours gained from a sport pilot certificate translate into PPL, CPL and ATP requirements?

How about you look it up?

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/part-61

JayMahon 03-04-2019 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 2774471)

Yeah, it's interpreting the following that I don't trust my own experience with:

(l)Permitted credit for flight training received from a flight instructor with a sport pilot rating. The holder of a sport pilot certificate may credit flight training received from a flight instructor with a sport pilot rating toward the aeronautical experience requirements of this section if the following conditions are met:
(1) The flight training was accomplished in the same category and class of aircraft for which the rating is sought;
(2) The flight instructor with a sport pilot rating was authorized to provide the flight training; and
(3) The flight training included either -
(i) Training on areas of operation that are required for both a sport pilot certificate and a private pilot certificate; or
(ii) For airplanes with a VH greater than 87 knots CAS, training on the control and maneuvering of an airplane solely by reference to the flight instruments, including straight and level flight, turns, descents, climbs, use of radio aids, and ATC directives, provided the training was received from a flight instructor with a sport pilot rating who holds an endorsement required by § 61.412(c).

Does an ultralight count as a single engine aircraft for Part I?

JayMahon 03-04-2019 09:08 AM

Cliff notes answer:

It appears that time spent in an ultralights that are LSA (Light Sport Aircraft) counts towards 'total time' and maybe some single engine time as well. This is based on the definition of ultralight as an aircraft and it's got a lawnmower engine, so technically it fits the criteria.

Any pro want to weigh in? I don't fly ultralights, so I've got 0 experience in this arena.

C37AFE 03-05-2019 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 2774246)
Glider time is total time and can be counted towards issuance of a CPL and an ATP in accordance with Part 61.
So if a regional airline requires 1500TT and an ATP then it’s acceptable time.

The 250hr requirement is if you change category.
So let’s say you’re rotor wing and you hold a helo ATP you need at least 250hrs fixed wing for the issuance of a fixed wing ATP.
Conversely if you hold a fixed wing ATP and you want to cross over to rotor ATP you need at least 250 hrs helo time.

Since there is no such thing as a Glider ATP it’s kind of a mute point.

Actually heli atp is 200 hrs.....

61.161 Aeronautical experience: Rotorcraft category and helicopter class rating.
(a) A person who is applying for an airline transport pilot certificate with a rotorcraft category and helicopter class rating, must have at least 1,200 hours of total time as a pilot that includes at least:

(1) 500 hours of cross-country flight time;

(2) 100 hours of night flight time, of which 15 hours are in helicopters;

(3) 200 hours of flight time in helicopters, which includes at least 75 hours as a pilot in command, or as second in command performing the duties of a pilot in command under the supervision of a pilot in command, or any combination thereof; and

(4) 75 hours of instrument flight time in actual or simulated instrument meteorological conditions, of which at least 50 hours are obtained in flight with at least 25 hours in helicopters as a pilot in command, or as second in command performing the duties of a pilot in command under the supervision of a pilot in command, or any combination thereof.


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