Why is everybody talking smack
 

Why is everyone constantly talking smack about Skywest?
I saw someone say stuff on Endeavor page
What’s going on here that everyone has bad things to say ?
Asking for a friend

Is your friend not able to ask?Nice troll job.

It’s a elementary school playground... (regionals). Do your own research. Look back 20+ years at each of the regionals and see why. Good or bad.. your answer lies there..

Because their lives or situations suck. They can feel better about themselves by either

a) Blaming OO pilots for their troubles, or
b) Telling themselves how much better off they are (they're not, BTDT)

Tune them out, get your time, and get out. If you end up staying, you'll still probably be better off them they are.

That’s a prejudiced statement coming from a former Skywester. Like Amcnd says, read everything, and your answer is somewhere in between.

Because culturally you guys can be easy to make fun of from time to time. Between the surfer bro, plastic bachelor party captains and flying around at the speed of smell all the time it’s easy to riff on you. Most of the prodding I hear/see is this type and it’s meant in good fun (unless captain slow makes someone miss a commute because you guys are taxiing at a turtle’s pace).

You also benefit from the dues of all the union airlines because your airline is forced to appease you enough that you don’t organize. Personally I don’t care, the way things are set up it’s just a reality of the industry. There are some bitter people that have a legit chip on their shoulder about it though.

Since when does "someone" now translate to mean "everybody"? Exaggerate much?

Regional pilots talk smack about each other in order to justify and prove to themselves that they chose the best one, when it's really subject to interpretation, since there's no "best" regional out there, despite recruiters thinking so.

I’ve personally been very sympathetic with OO, ever since ZCMI was sold twenty years ago.


Must be tough getting underwear now... ;):D

I’ve been on both sides of this agreement. It’s a regional. Same aircraft different call sign.. 5180 pilots don’t seem to think OO is that bad. But 700-1900 pilot airlines love to hackle us...

I've seen/heard most of the other regionals (and mainline carriers, for that matter) do the same things that SKW gets poked about for probably many of the same reasons: operational concerns, performance limitations, ATC restrictions, etc.

It's easy to explain. As a species, humans tend to judge others by their actions but themselves by their intentions (and not actions). We give ourselves the benefit of the doubt or supply explanations that self-rationalize our own behavior but don't do any of that for anyone else and make judgements based solely on what we observe.

Or sometimes they just make good natured jokes, exaggerating characteristics for comic effect.

Lighten up, Francis...

Perhaps. But often times it's not joking around, at least not in any obvious manner...else why would the OP have asked in the first place?

Are you kidding me??? He was asking for a friend? Common seriously, did that not sound like a troll post to you? And Skywest Pilots are just as guilty of talking smack about other regional airlines as well. I was in the Jumpseat on a flight home, thanks for the ride btw, but the captain forgot I was there for a little bit. Made for an awkward moment after he remembered

It might be a troll post, sure, but it's still an interesting question in the general sense. And for sure SKW is no exception to the human behavior rule - while there are a lot of great people I've enjoyed flying with, there's a couple that could use some real life lessons about professionalism, leadership, and generally not being a dick.

All regionals get talked smack. We all suck. They talk smack about us here at Skywest for many reasons, and I’ll agree that we are the most apathetic pilot group in the industry. Our student council is pathetic and no one trusts them. So we don’t bother to vote for them and all want out. The lifers are stuck and don’t want to rock the boat.

Because humans are naturally tribalistic.

Some hate to love SkyWest, others love to hate SkyWest.

9E pilots are naturally smarter and more athletic than OO pilots, so obviously we need to demonstrate this through OO bashing. Don't talk about that 300 pound guy... that's all muscle, folks.

I almost threw in a SAPA joke here, but I didn't, because why is everyone talking smack?

Not prejucided, informed. I've tried both sides and experienced the cultures.

OO people often complain (like any other pilots), and often for good reason. But I've never heard them blame their troubles on another regional 2000 miles away on the opposite coast.

Drama much? I don’t here people blaming their troubles on Skywest either. Mainly I hear about slow operating speeds

Been living under a rock? ExpressJet Pilots complaining that Skywest ruined their company... Compass, Republic, Endeavor guys complaining that Skywest stole their flying.

Or Horizon’s extreme disdain for OO pilots, like they’re the ones making these corporate decisions that they take so personally.

I think most regional guys end up where they end up because that’s who called first. When I was 23, and applying, and everyone was yacking about which regional is worst with their anecdotal story about how they got screwed. You have no idea what to take seriously and what to take with a grain of salt. So we apply at a handful of regionals that seem okay and maybe have a base close to where we live and see what sticks to the dart board. So it’s funny when pilots bash other regional pilots when you bet they probably had an application filled out there at one point in time.


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Well. That’s true.

Yeah, had a QX guy years ago on an overnight was literally about to try and kick my ass. I flew a turboprop in SOCAL, had nothing to with QX flying, ever.

SkyWest is nothing but an industry under-cutter. The pure fact that their pilot group is non unionized is enough to create animosity over. Unless you live in a base they offer, there’s zero rational to fly for OO compared to others. Regionals should be treated as just stepping stones, but they are NOT all equal to each other. OO contributes negatively to all other pilot groups by demonstrating and supporting its possible to run an airline with a labor group that kisses managements ass. Pilots that support them fall victim to their BS spewing recruiting team. The pilot groups at the majors share the same opinion as well.

I guess you talked to all of them.

You should make the dictionary your book.

This is exactly what the original poster was looking for. He wins. Of course it was for his “friend.”

Not many wise ones venturing to OO unless they’re in reach of one their western outstations or a millennial that’s a product of a pilot mill who knows jack squat about the airline industry and fell for the “we are the best of the best of everything” recruiting line.

stabapch, you hit the nail on the head.

skywest management SUCKS!!

chip childs destroyed two great airlines.

Just remember if chip needs to screw the skywest pilots he will.

I have nothing against the SkyWest pilots. We're all just pawns in the game.

701EV;)

Lol


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Apparently you have all the answers. Thank god you doesn't sound arrogant, like all those skywest either ignorant or millenials.

Hate to break it to you but regionals should be treated as stepping stones in this hiring climate. And things like low reserve time, quick upgrade, good compensation, and good base selection goes a long way for somebody trying to get experience and move on. There’s a reason why SkyWest has 5000+ pilots now.

Because, for whatever reason, they don’t understand that regional airlines/FFD flying is the classic example of “don’t hate the player(s), hate the game” and that it’s macro forces (economy, etc) & mainline management teams’ decisions - not any particular regional pilot group - that ultimately pulls 99% of the strings.

It’s called the “Nickelback Factor”. Are they the absolute worst band in the history of bands? No. But what started as a movie line between Paul Rudd and Seth Rogan, has grown into a cultural phenomenon of hating something “just because”.

The fact that their music DOES suck and OO isn’t unionized, is a parallel too close to ignore, though.

Yeah pretty uncomfortable having the OO guy talk to the group of people interviewing almost in tears saying he is so proud of his company for not furloughing any pilots and he would gladly give up all of his hours to save everyone else’s job.