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KSCessnaDriver 01-06-2020 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2952387)
No. HYD B pumps don’t turn on tell flaps greater then zero in the CRJ. Gear has a hard time with only 1 pump...

Weird limitation, but the way OO flies the 200 is a lot different than my company. But then again, you guys also run the HYD pumps differently than we do.

amcnd 01-06-2020 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver (Post 2952472)
Weird limitation, but the way OO flies the 200 is a lot different than my company. But then again, you guys also run the HYD pumps differently than we do.

Auto, And 3A on...

Utah 01-06-2020 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver (Post 2952472)
Weird limitation, but the way OO flies the 200 is a lot different than my company. But then again, you guys also run the HYD pumps differently than we do.

Do you run the B pumps continuously?

OneFourLeft 01-06-2020 01:04 PM

I’m guessing your problems on visuals come from being too high. A lot of newbies to the airplane have this same problem. Once you get taken off the arrival and ATC gives a decent to a lower altitude, don’t be afraid to hustle down. Take it out of PTH, go green FLCH. Pull the boards or manual speed 210 (ATC speed dependent) flaps 1 if you need to get down faster. If ATC gives a slow down and descent, use FPA or VS and the boards/flaps. I agree, hand flying is always quicker and easier than messing with the autopilot, but you need to have a solid grasp on what each automation mode does. Once you have that, hand fly every visual, auto throttles off too. Those skills go away fast and this plane will make you lazy quick.

journeybird 01-06-2020 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2952387)
No. HYD B pumps don’t turn on tell flaps greater then zero in the CRJ. Gear has a hard time with only 1 pump...

Where is this limitation? I've seen it done.

amcnd 01-06-2020 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by journeybird (Post 2952633)
Where is this limitation? I've seen it done.

I won’t post sopm. But look at ils profile uper left box on the fancy profile photo..

DarkSideMoon 01-06-2020 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2952387)
No. HYD B pumps don’t turn on tell flaps greater then zero in the CRJ. Gear has a hard time with only 1 pump...

If only there was some kind of switch that could turn the hydraulic B pumps on without lowering the flaps.

TFAYD 01-06-2020 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2952387)
No. HYD B pumps don’t turn on tell flaps greater then zero in the CRJ. Gear has a hard time with only 1 pump...

This probably has more to do with several unexplainable gear up landings. There is plenty of history where the gear can down just fine after it was jacked up but somehow it didn’t come down in flight.

Just one more attempt to reduce that risk.

TFAYD 01-06-2020 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by dhc8guru (Post 2952459)
I fly the ERJ and have never flown the CRJ. 95% of the captains came from the CRJ and having had multiple discussions on the ERJ being "slippery" and all say yes. You can't get away with flying the ERJ like they did on the CRJ. The ERJ sucks up the boards over flaps one and also the VNAV is basing its path all the way to touchdown, so usually when things go south is transitioning between a VNAV managed approach to a visual approach where your trying to manually manage the automation. 90% of the time it goes to crap and I just hand fly it.
The biggest complaint with new FO's from captains is the inability of being able to handle the transition between VNAV to visual approaches.
As far as length of IOE. I believe the minimum is 30 hours and as far as max goes, I can't say for sure but I've heard it's around a hundred. Mine was around 47 hours scheduled including the final line check two day trip.

The conceptual issue people need to understand is that VNAV is designed to keep the plane as high as possible for as long as possible. If you push the speed too much you just limit your options as you are in a tight corner.

Assertive use of boards or gear can save the day in those cases.

journeybird 01-06-2020 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2952649)
I won’t post sopm. But look at ils profile uper left box on the fancy profile photo..

Missing what you're putting down here. ILS single engine outline box? I ask, because I've put the gear down twice before flaps, for drag, when they leave you high and dry.


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