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Old 03-25-2020, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by captive apple View Post
while I feel bad for the base closure (atl), I in no way feel bad about them getting paid 50 hours for zero work. This isn’t over yet, our loads for our partners are unsustainable already. The 36 hour option is still on the table and furloughs shortly there after.

There are many hurting more than us currently and we may be joining them yet.
Just so everyone is clear....

New hires have been furloughed (maybe not what the company is calling it). Vto/cpto was denied to us. We were, however, informed by the company that they're sending us invoices for the issued uniform items over the standard (i.e. hat, blazer, etc).
Full benefits (insurance, etc) end March 31.

Did the bailout money say no furloughs? Until August 1 or so? If so, how does Skywest spin this one?
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Old 03-25-2020, 06:45 AM
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Just so everyone is clear....

New hires have been furloughed (maybe not what the company is calling it). Vto/cpto was denied to us. We were, however, informed by the company that they're sending us invoices for the issued uniform items over the standard (i.e. hat, blazer, etc).
Full benefits (insurance, etc) end March 31.

Did the bailout money say no furloughs? Until August 1 or so? If so, how does Skywest spin this one?

has any airline taken the money?? Some Majors may not want the “loan” do to strings attached. Sounds like sapa is fighting for the new-hires. Stay positive. And hope this is all over soon..
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Old 03-25-2020, 06:49 AM
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I don't think anyone in ATL got it forced on them. There's still some captains that wanted the CPTO and didn't get it.
That’s weird if so. It’s on the SAPA site and one rep says he’s aware of it and looking into it.
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Old 03-25-2020, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by R0GER BALL View Post
Just so everyone is clear....

New hires have been furloughed (maybe not what the company is calling it). Vto/cpto was denied to us. We were, however, informed by the company that they're sending us invoices for the issued uniform items over the standard (i.e. hat, blazer, etc).
Full benefits (insurance, etc) end March 31.

Did the bailout money say no furloughs? Until August 1 or so? If so, how does Skywest spin this one?
You should know that new hires are 100% responsible for uniform costs. After 1 year $200/year will be given to you as a uniform allotment.

When did new hires get full benefits from day one? Insurance was always 90 days.
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Old 03-25-2020, 07:30 AM
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You should know that new hires are 100% responsible for uniform costs. After 1 year $200/year will be given to you as a uniform allotment.

When did new hires get full benefits from day one? Insurance was always 90 days.
My point is that we got an issue. Then one week later got fired. And one week later invoiced. You're certainly correct with that company response. I guess the entire company values speech from first day of indoc is still fresh in my mind.

Cadets get full benefits first of the month following start day. That is us.

Initial draft of the legislation- if airlines take they money no furloughs before august 1. If that survived....
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Old 03-25-2020, 07:31 AM
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You should know that new hires are 100% responsible for uniform costs. After 1 year $200/year will be given to you as a uniform allotment.

When did new hires get full benefits from day one? Insurance was always 90 days.
since the cadet program
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Old 03-25-2020, 07:46 AM
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I took one month leave. id probably say at least 10 on my seat took it as well.
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Old 03-25-2020, 07:48 AM
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It sounds like the CRJ fleet is taking the majority of the cut, parking 70-CRJ200 and 100- “dual class”.
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thats all split between OO/RP/9E. But we don’t know the break down. Or for how long before the get reactivated.... Time will tell..
For April, it looks like 9E will be down about 40 dual class and about 20 200s. That's from a detailed analysis of RONs.

I count maybe 30 YXs by a quick comparison of early departures (45 YXs depart before 9:30am) versus early arrivals (only 15 arrive before 9:00am, so that's about 30 RONs). I'll defer to anyone who takes the time to take the deep dive, though.

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Old 03-25-2020, 08:07 AM
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I’m seeing 70% range MSP CRJ getting voluntary leaves approved and then DL planning to shut down A & B terminal in MSP. Doesn’t look good for MSP CRJ future.
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I’m seeing 70% range MSP CRJ getting voluntary leaves approved and then DL planning to shut down A & B terminal in MSP. Doesn’t look good for MSP CRJ future.
Maybe. It's obvious that both CRJ and ERJ flying will be down (duh). The gate closures by themselves are an obvious cost saving measure since the CRJs can use the C and some of D gates as well. It's also not clear that the A gates will be completely closed - the language didn't state that (unlike the B-gates, which were given a specific timeframe at which point they would be closed completely).
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