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Old 05-08-2020, 10:01 PM
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Read the whole release. We are also removing a few 700’s and 900’s for Delta.. but adding E175’s. I think OO knows the 200’s are eventually leaving. So there trying to double down on E175’s.... start that 30 year clock all over...
I wonder if UA/AA will end up using the 700s. I know AA is a bit of a fan of them. Looks like the over all result is a loss of 3 900s, one new airplane to be delivered this year to fly for DL. The rest as you say, are 175s.

As long as the flying is there for us to do with the 50 or so new 175s, hopefully the furlough situation will be very small if at all come October. As pointed out elsewhere, they will likely be looking at pilot requirements 6 or more likely 12 months ahead of time from Oct. 1 given the cost of all the training events that will be required if they start letting people go and shifting seats and equipment suddenly.

Out of interest, anyone have a rough, and I mean very rough, estimate what transition, upgrade, downgrade and CQ events cost per pilot? I’ve heard 35-45K all up for transition/upgrade and 3-4K or so for CQ. Not a clue if even slightly accurate however.
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Old 05-09-2020, 04:28 AM
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Sounds like I'll be putting my 170 type to use again.
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Old 05-09-2020, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by amcnd View Post
call financial discipline. Don’t spend the money unless you know your ROR (rate of return) on your investment..

Fact is, 200’s will go away (all non-OO owned). And they will keep the paid for ones, and fish the market when/if it comes back. I think will be able to float the extra staffing.. as the 60 E175’s come online, it will even out the 200’s lost..
60 additional E-175 for Delta? Source?
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60 additional E-175 for Delta? Source?
That's across all partners.
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We get around 50-52 175's to be spread between UA, DL and AA from memory, I think.
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20 175’s for AA. Were Q4 2020. Now Q1 2021
25 175’s from XJT. 3 are already flying. The rest flying by end 2020
6 new E175’s for Delta through 2020
3 used 175’s from Compass already on property. Waiting for MX checks..

1 new CRJ 900 this year, and 7 used 700’s. If you care about “non under wing engine” aircraft...
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Originally Posted by amcnd View Post
20 175’s for AA. Were Q4 2020. Now Q1 2021
25 175’s from XJT. 3 are already flying. The rest flying by end 2020
6 new E175’s for Delta through 2020
3 used 175’s from Compass already on property. Waiting for MX checks..

1 new CRJ 900 this year, and 7 used 700’s. If you care about “non under wing engine” aircraft...
Thanks for the breakdown. Truly hope there is the flying for all these airplanes coming up, I don't know a lot, but I know I'm in the furlough danger zone.
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Thanks for the breakdown. Truly hope there is the flying for all these airplanes coming up, I don't know a lot, but I know I'm in the furlough danger zone.

we hope things will reverse back slowly by Sept and you will be worry free about it.

people will return to travel again but with alot of caution,. just like it has but better.
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we hope things will reverse back slowly by Sept and you will be worry free about it.

people will return to travel again but with alot of caution,. just like it has but better.
Thanks, literally everything I can cross is crossed!

Looking at the basic stats as of today,
The TSA screening numbers have increased 146% in the period April 14 to May 9. While still not huge numbers, around 135,000 increase, it's a pretty promising trend in a short time frame that theoretically will continue unless something spooks the population again soon.
And projections, which I hope are correct, show a dramatic and sharp drop off of COVID related cases and deaths from mid May into early June and continuing to plummet from that point onwards.

Hopefully once folks see the country is generally going to be a safe place to be out and about in, those flying numbers will blast up rapidly. I have some beers in the fridge I'm saving for the day we break the 1 mil TSA per day again.

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Thanks, literally everything I can cross is crossed!

Looking at the basic stats as of today,
The TSA screening numbers have increased 146% in the period April 14 to May 9. While still not huge numbers, around 135,000 increase, it's a pretty promising trend in a short time frame that theoretically will continue unless something spooks the population again soon.
And projections, which I hope are correct, show a dramatic and sharp drop off of COVID related cases and deaths from mid May into early June and continuing to plummet from that point onwards.

Hopefully once folks see the country is generally going to be a safe place to be out and about in, those flying numbers will blast up rapidly. I have some beers in the fridge I'm saving for the day we break the 1 mil TSA per day again.
Why on earth would we be safe to be out and about? COVID-19 is still spreading and we are opening the country back up. We have limited testing (only for the sick), no therapies and no vaccine.

I love my job and I want to see travel back to where it was as much as the next guy. If we have a second shutdown, that will be the abyss.
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