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Old 05-14-2020, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Tpinks View Post
That doesn’t matter. American Eagle is limited on size via a ratio of AE to Mainline Narrow bodies. Envoy has been continuously taking 175’s from the factory and PSA was still receiving CRJ9’s up until a few months ago. Previous articles said AA was at their 76 seat scope limit.

AA has parked 20 190s, and 36 757s and are talking about an unspecified number of 737-800s being retired as well. We know with the max groundings, they were already planning on removing 4 aircraft from the AE fleet for scope compliance which would also further suggest they are scoped out. With the 190’s and 757’s being retired, more plane will have to be removed from the fleet.
Interesting.
They must have some sort of a grand plan for them, as of last week all are still due to start arriving later this year and into next and from memory on the earnings call it was confirmed AA still intended to deploy them all into the network. Not sure how scope will affect the contract though.

On the other hand, a week is a long time in aviation so who knows. The entire industry seems to change overnight right now.

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Old 05-15-2020, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Ihavenoidea View Post
How are the 20 E175’s OO ordered to fly for AA scope compliant if Envoy is going to be flying the Compass frames?
Substitutes for Mesa's 900's coming off a contract later this year.
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Old 05-15-2020, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Tpinks View Post
That doesn’t matter. American Eagle is limited on size via a ratio of AE to Mainline Narrow bodies. Envoy has been continuously taking 175’s from the factory and PSA was still receiving CRJ9’s up until a few months ago. Previous articles said AA was at their 76 seat scope limit.

AA has parked 20 190s, and 36 757s and are talking about an unspecified number of 737-800s being retired as well. We know with the max groundings, they were already planning on removing 4 aircraft from the AE fleet for scope compliance which would also further suggest they are scoped out. With the 190’s and 757’s being retired, more plane will have to be removed from the fleet.
Scope compliant from not having Max on property.
Covid related compliance is a national emergency and Mgmt has 15 months from date of non-compliance to correct.
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Old 05-15-2020, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Happyflyer View Post
Scope compliant from not having Max on property.
Covid related compliance is a national emergency and Mgmt has 15 months from date of non-compliance to correct.
Except for the fact that these are permanent retirements, not just extenuating circumstances out of the airline’s control that has created a temporary parking which is what happened due to the Max Grounding.

The fleet numbers for Scope are evaluated every quarter. So I don’t see the APA allowing permanent retirements to count in fleet numbers.
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Old 05-21-2020, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Tpinks View Post
Except for the fact that these are permanent retirements, not just extenuating circumstances out of the airline’s control that has created a temporary parking which is what happened due to the Max Grounding.

The fleet numbers for Scope are evaluated every quarter. So I don’t see the APA allowing permanent retirements to count in fleet numbers.
I'am not sure what point your driving.

AAG parked/retired airplanes due to a national emergency. They have 15 months to become compliant if they breached/breach compliance.
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